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Old 09-01-2007, 08:22 PM
tralboy tralboy is offline
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Question Money Order scam

My fiance received an envelope via UPS addressed to her at our apt. Inside were 5 money orders for $470.00 each. She cashed one at a Walmart, cause they were Walmart money orders. Later when she tried to cash another one, well thats when it went down hill. She got arrested for forgery 2 counts and 1 count of scamming. We did not know the MO's were fake. Also there has been some guy calling my home phone asking for her. He told me to check her email so I did and there were very specific instructions on how to cash the MO's.

I am not sure what to do to help her. Any ideas will be appreiciated.
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Tim

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Old 09-02-2007, 07:54 AM
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HI Tralboy
I am afraid in the USA and in most western nations it is illegal to try and cash a forged money order or cheque. As scammerslayer has said it's a fairly common problem, scammers make friends with people on the net, to varying degrees and then get them to cash forged checks and money orders. They then ask that a % be sent by Western Union or Money Gram out of the country, the victim supplies the MCTN number to the scammer and keeps maybe 10%.
There are a huge number of these scams in all sorts of forms, from love-scams to job-scams, set up do process fake cheques and money orders.
Sometimes it takes months for the forgery to come to light but the person who deposited/cashed the forgery can be charged with a criminal offence and be held liable to repay all the money.
You must never cash money orders or checks from sources that you are not sure of, not knowing is not a defence, your best way forward is to repay all money cashed and be totally open with the law enforcement agency handling the case.

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Old 09-02-2007, 09:10 PM
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To tralboy:

I suspect your fiancee was lured into cashing counterfeit money orders through a scam job offer. She is a victim not a criminal. Both scammerslammer and OutbackMark give good advice. To learn how to spot Advance Fee Fraud, click on (To learn how to spot Advance Fee Fraud, open http://www.chase.com/ccpmweb/shared/.../fbi_flyer.pdf.)

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Old 09-03-2007, 07:28 PM
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I want to thank everyone for there help. I have printed the emails and written down the approximate time and date and nature of the phone calls that we have received. She got these for a work at home type offer. Does anyone know how to find out the time and date an email was opened? This way I can prove that the emails were opened after she was arrested. I have seen unfortunately that innocent nieve (spelling) people have gotten into trouble. As for the amount of money there were 5 money orders in the amount of $470.00 each. She only cashed 1 and we spent $66.00 of it. So she is very willing to make restitution for that amount.

Any further thought or anything will be greatly appreciated.

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Old 09-05-2007, 02:42 AM
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To tralboy:

I'm guessing you are a US citizen. If I'm correct, this means your local police department may not be familiar with a scam job offer that arrives via email (see Local Police Department in Reporting Fraud forum.) I suggest you contact your local Secret Service field office. The Secret Service Financial Crime Division should be know about the type of job scam your fiancee encountered. To locate the field office nearest you, click on United States Secret Service: Field Office Contact Information. They might be able to answer your email question and/or guide you through this nightmare. If they can't help, try an FBI field office. Click on Federal Bureau of Investigation - Your Local FBI Office. Also, see if Victim Q & A Database in the Reporting Fraud forum can help you find legal advice.

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Old 10-08-2007, 04:02 AM
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Good advice so far. Most important is to get a lawyer who is experienced in this kind of thing.

I just wanted to say that I think it's sad that many good and honest people end up getting the blame for these scammers actions. It's shameful that a country like the USA is still backward enough that local law enforcement agencies are often unaware of the way these scams operate.

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Old 10-14-2007, 08:06 PM
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Hi Tim,
I just came across a website that may have some useful info for you and your girlfriend, fraudaid.com. Google on fraudaid and it's the first hit (not allowed to post links yet, too new a member). They are an American site so the legal advice is at least for the right country for you. They have some advice on not waiving you Miranda rights even accidentally and a secure area for those who have been arrested or in danger of being arrested.
I wish you both the very best of luck in getting this sorted out.
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Old 02-10-2008, 07:20 PM
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Default I recieved money orders as well 6 days ago

I recieved 2 money grams via UPS 6 days ago for the amount of $825.35 each and have been so tempted to cash them until i read your story. I dont understand how they can come back on you for such behavior, but im very grateful you posted this as i know now to tear mine up and throw them away. Good luck to you and hope all turns out in your favor

Sincerely Keri

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Old 02-11-2008, 11:01 PM
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Yep don't cash anything from Nigeria or Indonesia. Otherwise you will find yourself in jail.

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Old 02-28-2008, 09:55 AM
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Unhappy Bude Lee/franklin Bill Fraud

I WAS SCAMMED TWICE. WONDER HOW THAT HAPPENDED. CALL ME STUPID BUT I WAS/AM INDEBT AND AT THAT TIME I WAS DESEPARTE. BUT I WAS ADVANCED FEE SCAM AND CHECK SCAM. I ALSO RECEIVED FAKE MONEY ORDERS. AND THE MO WERE POSTAL. THE POSTMASTER STATED THAT A SPECFIC WATER MARK IDENTIFIES LEGIT MOs. THE SO CALLED LENDER THAT SCAMMED ME WAS BUDELEE. NOW SOME FRANKYIN BILL IS EMAILING ME.

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