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Old 01-26-2008, 08:22 AM
elisat elisat is offline
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Unhappy The Real Question: What do you do if you are scammed???

I see the merits of prevention, but I think this would be a richer resource if it helped victims find a recourse!
My husband was scammed by a (white, American, local) with a very familiar story (friend w/a deceased relative inheritance in nigeria so on...). He fell for it b/c the scammer was not nigerian & news of these scams just didn't fit the profile (until now). We lost everything we have. We have twin 11 month old infants -- one of which is handicapped, and we now have no way to provide for them. He maxxed out all of our credit cards and the equity in our house. I love my husband very much and know that he was trying to do the best for us, despite his foolishness. But please please, give me some recourse to get back our $250,000! I have hope that we can b/c one of the contacts is a local and we've met him and been to his house, run his credit, background check, etc. He is who he claims to be. His friend (who we've been wiring to), we've never met but through email correspondence and phone. He allegedly lives in Washington state. Is all lost??? As much as I would like, we cannot waste precious time informing public officials if they are only trying to prevent future scams and not get our money back at the risk of them burning our bridge. If you have any idea of how to help me, please tell!!! We are desperate.

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Old 01-26-2008, 11:14 AM
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Dear Elisat

Welcome to this forum.
Keep all evidence (hardcopies of e-mails with full headers) and report the scam to law enforcement.
Unfortunatelly for you money considered lost and there is no possibility to get them back if the scam is not arrested and found what ever remains.
By "not informing public officials" there will be another victim also, like you. Possibly previous victims did the same and now you are in such position.

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Old 01-27-2008, 12:27 AM
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what about lawyers, steps i can take besides that? i notified the social services and they have everything that we have. it sounds like it's not quite at the top of their priority list, w/elections coming up etc. do you know of any people that recover their money from these scams? what about from scammers locally or in canada? what are the circumstances surrounded their predicament?

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Old 01-27-2008, 06:21 AM
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Default misfortune

The truth of the matter is that the law can protect the individuals where known scammers operate,but the law can't really do anything when someone WILLINGLY hands over everything they own; regardless of the reason.( except in cases of distotrion) Your husband was trying to help someone,but who is there to help you once everything you had is GIVEN away,there's not much anyone can do about that.Handing out money and assetts are not the only way to help someone in a rough situation.Information and knowledge can be just as helpful. If relatives come to my door and all they want is money,I tell them to go to the bank. Sorry about your loss,but educating others about what happened to you would be helping yourself by giving as much information about what happened as possible Good Luck

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Old 01-27-2008, 02:54 PM
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By "not informing public officials" there will be another victim also, like you
This is the best advice you can get for the moment.
Until you have a crime reference number..technecally..no crime has been commited
Secondly...it should help you,emotionally,if not legally to figure out what exactly happened.
As you said...the scammer is allegedly in Washington state.
This ,as you are probably aware,is very probably not true.
I can appear to be in the UK ,with a yahoo.co.uk address...an inbound uk voip number and even hide behind an english IP address making it very difficult to find where I actually am.
If you like..you could post the scammers email address ..name etc and I can see what info I can find?

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Old 01-27-2008, 03:52 PM
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Thank you Mercenary for your advice,
Perhaps I did not make myself clear?As I said the best advice is to report the crime to your local police.
However it also helps if you have some idea as to where the scammer is scamming from.If a scammer says he is from a paticular City,due to the nature of scammers (ie.they lie) you can be sure that that 'fact' is not neccessarly true

As it says in 419legals 'mission'
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As awareness is only capable through transparancy I was hoping to make elisats dilema more transparant thus allowing him/her to report to the proper authorities.Aas you very well know,you cant very well report 'Charles Soludo'to the police and expect an arrest

That is somthing I admire and aspire to so I am curious as to why I have received a warning for 'advertisement spamming'?
I am sure you have good reason but frankly I am a little lost

edit:as for 4 different IPS...I do not have a static IP
most people dont


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Old 02-01-2008, 05:59 AM
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If you like..you could post the scammers email address ..name etc and I can see what info I can find?
Head guys US: stuartscotsman@aol.com, wmtruck@aol.com;
Scott Stuart and William Truck. Scotts father is the deceased who left the fortune. William Truck is Scotts childhood friend of Scott who has seen the money in Customs in Canada.

Alleged Contacts in Africa: updcs@mail.com, abajohnson100@yahoo.com
Gen Abba Johnson is in Nigerian External Affairs; Ben Peterson is the owner of the courier service that handled the money between Africa and Canada.

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Old 02-01-2008, 07:24 AM
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Some advices for Elisat´s case:

Your story has been called "Advance Fee Fraud" or "The Next-of-Kin Scam". Many people around the world have fallen in these traps, because of trust and greed factor.
Your husband was a victim of this scam. You have lost all your money and the money cannot get back anymore.
But you can prevent fraud by publishing your real story and encourage people to spread the words!

Please follow my advices:
- Take contact immediately with: U.S. Secret Service and report your case to:
Financial Crimes Division
950 H Street, NW,
Washington, DC 20001.
(202) 406-5850
Or send e-mail to: 419.fcd@usss.treas.gov
Or file a complaint at: http://www.ic3.gov/

- To avoid ID-Theft in your case, please contact:
the FTC's Consumer Response Center.
By Phone: Toll-free 1-877-ID-THEFT (438-4338)
TDD 202-326-2502
By Mail: Consumer Response Center
Federal Trade Commission
600 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20580
On the Web: Deter. Detect. Defend. Avoid ID Theft
For Consumer Information: Federal Trade Commission

- Help for crime victims in USA, contact for help, information about your options, and referrals to local services anywhere in the country. You can:

• call: Monday - Friday, 8:30 am - 8:30 pm EST at
1-800-FYI-CALL (394-2255)
or our TTY line, 1-800-211-7996

• write at: Victim Services
National Center for Victims of Crime
2000 M Street, NW
Suite 480
Washington, DC Portal Error Information

-Sent a report to your bank and your local police department to investigate this case urgently.

We are still here to help you with tips and hints!


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Old 02-06-2008, 06:32 AM
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Mercenary wrote:

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This e-mail address does not exist since Feb. 2007

Just update info.
Some useful advices for you and forum members:

- Contact e-mails of certain government agencies can be changed for some reasons ( 419.fcd@usss.treasure.gov)
- In this case: go to United States Secret Service web site by clicking United States Secret Service: Field Office Contact Information, you will find the direct contact if you are located in USA.

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Old 02-06-2008, 09:16 AM
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- Contact e-mails of certain government agencies can be changed for some reasons ( 419.fcd@usss.treasure.gov)
This is valid or not?

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