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KEvans27 · #11 (**permalink**) 05-24-2007, 07:56 PM

Yes I have written a couple of entries before regarding this company but this I believe everyone should read. This company is a scam. I sent this email to my dad who is in the banking business and he told me after reading it that it sounds like I've been "smurfed" (scammed). He contacted the local police department, spoke with a detective and explained to them the email I received. He said he didn't have to get too far into explaining for the detective to know that this is all scam. If you do get this email DO NOT REPLY TO IT! DO NOT even give them your information because more people who claim to be companies overseas needing U.S. personnel to transfer money will try and contact you.

Poejoe32 · #12 (**permalink**) 05-24-2007, 09:14 PM

I too fell for this scam. I received the check and did bring it to my bank. The check didn't clear and cost me 5.00. When I first looked up this company it didn't have any negative info on it. Now it does and I'm glad I found this website. DON'T FALL FOR THIS SCAM. My bank hasn't alerted me yet on what happened but the took the check. I figured I would put it into an account that I don't use and see what happened. So, now I'm out the $5.00. Well, if it helps anyone else out there then it's worth the $5.00.

cybele7 · #13 (**permalink**) 05-29-2007, 06:54 PM

From : Mr. Chris Drijfholt <CandidateEmail@site.careerbuilder.com>
Reply-To : <drijfholt.chris@gmail.com>
Sent : Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:37 AM
To : "Mr. Chris Drijfholt" <CandidateEmail@site.careerbuilder.com>
Subject : Careerbuilder.com: Are you looking for an open position ? Apply now !

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We have a Job for you.

To a future employee,

In order to apply,you need to read the entire description and to reply this email with all the 4 questions answered.

An European trading company,located in Rotterdam Netherlands,is looking for US personnel in order to intermediate marketing transactions overseas.
Due to a large period of time concerning the payment transactions accomplished between US and Europe,our company is searching for staff,part time or full time.
The most important aptitudes required are seriousness in keeping in strict confidence the identity of our clients(our company's errand,including your salary,depends on that so the buyer's identity cannot be acquainted with the seller's),also promptitude on carrying out the tasks or our demands required to the matter.
The earnings in return for work are various,between $2,000 and $5,000 per month for only 3 hours a day.Depending on your time implication,seriousness and correctness,the earnings can be increased up to 300% .
If you are interested on a possible collaboration then then read the entire job's description and answer to all 5 questions mentioned:

Due to a high success of our company in trading fields(at least 800.000 satisfied clients),and also to some various complains concerning the large period of time to accomplish payment transactions between US and Europe,we have decided to draft US personnel in order to facilitate this process.
In order to be able to charge the client we have to keep the supplier's identity secret so we will redirect the client's payment to you.After you will receive the payment and keep our errand(15%),you have to send the rest of the money to the supplier by using his preferred payment method.

We can attach,on your request,a picture which will provide you the business's steps :
1.Our company invested and invest in all the major trading markets.
2.The supplier contact us with a offer.
3.After a review is made we decide if we (or not) engage on promoting their products.
4.A contract is made between supplier and our company.
5.The clients contact us in order to purchase these products and after they'll sign an agreement contract,we'll start the transaction.
6.We redirect the client's payment to you and after you'll keep our(and yours) earnings,it is your obligation to transfer the rest (85%) .
All the transfer fees will be supported by the supplier. Our company will never ask you to support or to invest a penny from your own pocket.

Requirements :
1. Elementary knowledge of payment transactions.
2. The possibility to accept both payment methods :

a) Checks
b) Money orders

3. Promptitude in sending the payment to the supplier.
4. Due to the high taxes concerning the transfer of money between US and Netherland,you have to keep our fee until the amount will become more than $1000 .
5. Ability to send us our commission on request.

Earnings :

1.Our company charges every transaction with 15% :
a) 10% is your earning to every transaction
b) 5% is our company fee
2.After you sign our contract,no matter how many transactions you will intermediate, our company will offer you a minimum income of $1,000.00 per month .

Interdiction :

1.Not to fulfill the terms of confidentiality between our clients.
2.Delaying the payment to our suppliers,after you have already received the buyer's amount(in the most cases our company shall request you to transfer the payment in the same day after you will get your errand).
3.Impossibility of transferring our earnings on request.

Note : If you don't respect one of the terms mentioned above,our collaboration will be over.

Top 5 earnings for the last month :

Theodor J. David,CA - $12,149.00
Timothy L. Fullerton,Fl - $11,021.00
Joseph Stanberry,CA - $11,003.00
Jennifer Houchens,WA - $10,714.00
Keith Kimbrough,WI - $10,242.00

If you fulfil our demands and you want to become one of us then answer the following questions :

1.Are you interested on a Full time or Part time job?
2.If you work part time then let us know how many hours per day .
3.Are you older than 21 years ?
4.Did you have problems with the law ?

Kind regards
Human resources department
Ciparo Products Trading BV

__________________________________________________ __________________________________

This email and its attachments, if any, are intended for the personal use of the named recipient(s) and may contain confidential, privileged, or proprietary information.
If you are not a named recipient, or an agent responsible for delivering it to a named recipient, you have received this email in error.
In that event, please (a) immediately notify me by reply email, (b) do not review, copy, save, forward, or print this email or any of its attachments, and (c) immediately delete and/or destroy this email and its attachments and all electronic and physical copies thereof.
Thank you.

I got this email from CareerBuilder and immediately knew it was a scam. There have been illegal scam rings like this running around for a while and the sticker is that if you do this once and get caught there is nothing to attach you to the person who sent the check or the person you are sending it to. Since it sounded like a scam I used the company name at the bottom of the email in a google search and found this forum. I notice there is a different name mentioned now but the email content is the same. The destroy this message at the bottom does not surprise me because the last company I worked for used it for internal emails all the time. This is a scam so please don't try it and I am going to report it to CareerBuilder again. Good luck in the search every one and be careful!!

cartwright03 · #14 (**permalink**) 06-05-2007, 05:28 AM

I fell for this scam! I am soooo gullible! This letter looked like a legite letter from careerbuilder.com and was from Callisto Trading BV from the Netherlands. I'm thankful for everyones postings on this site. It gave me the heads up on the scam. I wish I would have visited this site before I agreed to the contract. Now I'm not really sure what to do. Well, you live, you learn, right? Sincere thanks to everyone who posted on this subject.

EGreenup6 · #15 (**permalink**) 06-14-2007, 08:22 PM

Alright guys, the company name has changed! I did a search for this Crown International Trading, and came up with nothin. Then, did a seach for that Keith Kimbrough just for the hell of it, thinking that the scam e-mail couldn't have changed too much over time. Watch out for this one folks! Fuckin Kenyan bastards lol

"Mr. George Abdo" <CandidateEmail@site.careerbuilder.com>

We have a Job for you.
To a future employee,

In order to apply,you need to read the entire description and to reply this email with all the 4 questions answered.

An European trading company,located in Enschede Netherlands,is looking for US personnel in order to intermediate marketing transactions overseas.
Due to a large period of time concerning the payment transactions accomplished between US and Europe,our company is searching for staff,part time or full time.
The most important aptitudes required are seriousness in keeping in strict confidence the identity of our clients(our company's errand,including your salary,depends on that so the buyer's identity cannot be acquainted with the seller's),also promptitude on carrying out the tasks or our demands required to the matter.
The earnings in return for work are various,between $2,000 and $5,000 per month for only 3 hours a day.Depending on your time implication,seriousness and correctness,the earnings can be increased up to 300% .
If you are interested on a possible collaboration then then read the entire job's description and answer to all 4 questions mentioned:

Due to a high success of our company in trading fields(at least 800.000 satisfied clients),and also to some various complains concerning the large period of time to accomplish payment transactions between US and Europe,we have decided to draft US personnel in order to facilitate this process.
In order to be able to charge the client we have to keep the supplier's identity secret so we will redirect the client's payment to you.After you will receive the payment and keep our errand(15%),you have to send the rest of the money to the supplier by using his preferred payment method.

We can attach,on your request,a picture which will provide you the business's steps :
1.Our company invested and invest in all the major trading markets.
2.The supplier contact us with a offer.
3.After a review is made we decide if we (or not) engage on promoting their products.
4.A contract is made between supplier and our company.
5.The clients contact us in order to purchase these products and after they'll sign an agreement contract,we'll start the transaction.
6.We redirect the client's payment to you and after you'll keep our(and yours) earnings,it is your obligation to transfer the rest (85%) .
All the transfer fees will be supported by the supplier. Our company will never ask you to support or to invest a penny from your own pocket.

Requirements :
1. Elementary knowledge of payment transactions.
2. The possibility to accept both payment methods :

a) Checks
b) Money orders

3. Promptitude in sending the payment to the supplier.
4. Due to the high taxes concerning the transfer of money between US and Netherland,you have to keep our fee until the amount will become more than $1000 .
5. Ability to send us our commission on request.

Earnings :

1.Our company charges every transaction with 15% :
a) 10% is your earning to every transaction
b) 5% is our company fee
2.After you sign our contract,no matter how many transactions you will intermediate, our company will offer you a minimum income of $1,000.00 per month .

Interdiction :

1.Not to fulfill the terms of confidentiality between our clients.
2.Delaying the payment to our suppliers,after you have already received the buyer's amount(in the most cases our company shall request you to transfer the payment in the same day after you will get your errand).
3.Impossibility of transferring our earnings on request.

Note : If you don't respect one of the terms mentioned above,our collaboration will be over.

Top 5 earnings for the last month :

Theodor J. David,CA - $12,149.00
Timothy L. Fullerton,Fl - $11,021.00
Joseph Stanberry,CA - $11,003.00
Jennifer Houchens,WA - $10,714.00
Keith Kimbrough,WI - $10,242.00

If you fulfill our demands and you want to become one of us then answer the following questions :

1.Are you interested on a Full time or Part time job?
2.If you work part time then let us know how many hours per day .
3.Are you older than 21 years ?
4.Did you have problems with the law ?

Kind regards
Human resources department
Crown International Trading Bv

__________________________________________________ ________________________________

This email and its attachments, if any, are intended for the personal use of the named recipient(s) and may contain confidential, privileged, or proprietary information.
If you are not a named recipient, or an agent responsible for delivering it to a named recipient, you have received this email in error.
In that event, please (a) immediately notify me by reply email, (b) do not review, copy, save, forward, or print this email or any of its attachments, and (c) immediately delete and/or destroy this email and its attachments and all electronic and physical copies thereof.
Thank you.

pili · #16 (**permalink**) 06-24-2007, 07:12 PM

My husband received one of the letters. It sounded fishy to me so I did this search and found 419 site. I would like to know if anyone signed the contract and what happened.

pili · #17 (**permalink**) 06-24-2007, 07:27 PM

This company is still in Career Builder but they have changed the name. They are now sending emails (just like the ones posted here) under Crown International Bv and the person who signs is George Abdo. Same letter...same scheme.

Bob Loblaw · #18 (**permalink**) 07-18-2007, 06:24 PM

I was contacted through CareerBuilder with this e-mail:

Quote:

Business Opportunity
The Ronald West team place professionals across temporary, contract and permanent markets within Investment Banking, Asset Management and Financial Services organizations.

Ronald West LTD is now looking for USA based business owners willing to become our collaborators and take part and help us structure our worldwide investment program.
You participation does not require any investment. We are looking for people that own a business in the United States of America and that are willing to collaborate with our company in order to place strategic investments in the name of our company and by doing so also increase their incomes.
All collaborations are contract based. A percentage of 5% from funds transaction handled by you as a business owner will be paid to you. (Investments values varies from $80.000.00 and can go up to $400.000.00 weekly.)
The funds following to be invested will be transferred by us to your corporate account trough wire transfer or ACH. Your part of the contract will be to invest the funds following the instructions we will send you.
This collaboration does not require any broker or any kind of financial license. All transaction are insured trough a contract that both parties will sign at the start of the business venture.

Responsibilities:
. Manage certain Funds Transaction
. Receive and Forward Documents and Papers from partner in your region.
. Place strategic investments following the instructions you will receive from our company.
Requirements
Qualifications:

. Own a business or have access to a business account in USA.
. Extremely ambitious self-starter with high energy and motivation
. Excellent communication skills
. Effective time management skills
. DISCLAIMER

The above information has been designed to indicate the general nature and level of work performed by collaborators within this classification. It is not designed to contain or be interpreted as a comprehensive inventory of all duties, responsibilities, and qualifications required of collaborators assigned to this position.
In order to find out more about this business opportunity simply reply to this email and our HR department will contact you shortly with details about your application. You can also email our investment manager: tomdales@ronaldwestinvest.com

I checked their website and saw that all the "jobs" connected to the same link so I figured it was sketchy. I replied with the description of one of the supposed "jobs" and here is what I got in reply:

Quote:

Dear Prospective Collaborator,

Ronald West LTD is a specialist recruitment consultancy working on behalf of
financial services clients. Based in London, we recruit on behalf of an
extensive portfolio of companies including Investment Banks, Asset
Management Firms, Hedge Funds and Custodians.

Our Asset Management arm is one of the largest investment managers in the
world. We provide expertise in a broad range of asset classes, from
traditional cash management, equity and fixed income to private equity, real
estate and other alternative sectors. We also manage a large family of
proprietary mutual funds, and provide online brokerage services.

Our business proposal is very simple and also very effective, if you
fulfill all the requirements we mentioned in our previous email.
You will receive funds from us and our business partners or clients, which
will also come with a set of instructions on how and where to place
strategic investments in different investment programs worldwide.

You will get a 5% commission from any investment placed on our behalf. This
commission will be kept by you on every single transaction. The amounts
are between $100.000.00 and $1.000.000.00. depending of your company
business figures and your business relation with your bank.
If you are interested in starting a business venture that we can guarantee
will be very profitable for both parties involved please read the attached
documents and we can start our collaboration once the contract and addendum
are signed and returned.
There is no need for a broker or financial license to be able to perform
the tasks that come with this collaboration.

You may ask why anybody would pay such a big percentage for cash
disbursement. The answer is very simple. The funds that will be deposited in
your accounts are going to HYIP ( High Yield Investment Programs) based on
oil, real estate or fresh cut paper investments offered by European based
investment trusts. These programs are very hard to access because the payout
percentage is very high and the rules are very strict and only certain
amounts of funds can be received from each participant. Because of that we
need collaborators such as yourself to be able to place the funds in these
programs. Since the profits from these programs are extremely high we are
willing to give out this commission to your company.

Attached are the documents we need to sign and complete in order to start
our business venture. Please read everything carefully so you can understand
the entire process as well as the benefits of this collaboration.
Once you have completed the documents please email or fax us the signed
copies at:

Fax Number US: (502) 371-6885

Once your fax is received we will call you to confirm the successful receipt
and also inform you about the exact date when our collaboration will start.

Exact information on how to complete all transactions in perfect timing will
be delivered to you trough email or fax.
The opportunity we are offering in accordance with and under pursuant to the
laws of USA. You are not required to relocate.
Most of the payments are being made online. You are not required to promote
market or sell any of our products. All our investors are advised by our
consultancy staff.
Please be aware that no unauthorized funds will be placed to your account.
There are no bad checks deposited to your account. You will receive the
funds trough ACH or Wire Transfer trough from our company client's accounts
to your business account. Once the funds are placed and cleared in your
account we will send you exact instructions on how to proceed with the
investment placing.

Ronald West LTD will never ask for sensitive information such as PASSWORDS,
USERS IDS OR ANY OTHER CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.
Ronald West LTD is acting under the laws of international Anti Money
Laundering Association and also under the USA financial laws.

Thank You anticipated and we look forward to have you on our team.

Tom Dales
Company Brochure:
http://www.ronaldwestinvest.com/docs...nyBrochure.pdf
tomdales@ronaldwestinvest.com
Human Resources Director
Fax Number : (502) 371-6885
Phone Number: 44-20-7691-9432
www.ronaldwestinvest.com

Ronald West Ltd
43 Spring Grove
London W4 3NH
London UK

I was considering a reply to mess with them but I've decided against it.

Note the name of the company is Ronald West LTD.

anais · #19 (**permalink**) 08-05-2007, 07:03 AM

I too received this letter also through Careerbuilder.com and it sounded great, but a little too great, so I did some research. The company name is now Strootman Trading BV and the email was sent by Wouter Struijs. From the research that I did, the company sounded legit. It's listed w/ the Netherlands Chamber of Commerce and with other trade websites. I even GoogleEarthed it and saw the warehouse and office building. I have contacted the Netherlands Embassy asking what they know of the company and job offer. I'm still waiting to hear from them, but I'm sure glad I saw all of your posts about the very same letter, word for word, but w/ the different company name. Sounds like they change names when people start catching on to them. I even Googled Wouter Struijs and found him on an import/export trading site w/ his contact info from Strootman Trading. Soooo scary that I was almost hooked by this seemingly legit company!

Saleen4life · #20 (**permalink**) 08-11-2007, 08:36 PM

I dont know how much Carrerbuilder intends on doing about this affair. As of Augest 10th, 2007, I have recieved an email from these fraudulent peoples. Its not right what they are doing so I planned on informing my local news station to hopefully ruse someone into getting this issue cleaned up.

Futhermore Ive done extensive reseach and located a site with the prior Stootman operations manager I believe it was. I will be glad to add a link if Im allowed. I believe I should be as I saw nothing stating that I could'nt in the forum policy.

This one got me going I must say, as I have been in a depression for work this one really got my hopes up and now I plan on returning the favor to them as best I can, with the power of media.

Nick

P.S. Here was the first email that I recieved:

We have a Job for you.
To a future employee,

In order to apply,you need to read the entire description and to reply this email with all the 4 questions answered.
An European trading company,located in Enschede Netherlands,is looking for US personnel in order to intermediate marketing transactions overseas.
Due to a large period of time concerning the payment transactions accomplished between US and Europe,our company is searching for staff,part time or full time.
The most important aptitudes required are seriousness in keeping in strict confidence the identity of our clients(our company's errand,including your salary,depends on that so the buyer's identity cannot be acquainted with the seller's),also promptitude on carrying out the tasks or our demands required to the matter.
The earnings in return for work are various,between $2,000 and $5,000 per month for only 3 hours a day.Depending on your time implication,seriousness and correctness,the earnings can be increased up to 300% .
If you are interested on a possible collaboration then then read the entire job's description and answer to all 4 questions mentioned:

Due to a high success of our company in trading fields(at least 800.000 satisfied clients),and also to some various complains concerning the large period of time to accomplish payment transactions between US and Europe,we have decided to draft US personnel in order to facilitate this process.
In order to be able to charge the client we have to keep the supplier's identity secret so we will redirect the client's payment to you.After you will receive the payment and keep our errand(15%),you have to send the rest of the money to the supplier by using his preferred payment method.

We can attach,on your request,a picture which will provide you the business's steps :
1.Our company invested and invest in all the major trading markets.
2.The supplier contact us with a offer.
3.After a review is made we decide if we (or not) engage on promoting their products.
4.A contract is made between supplier and our company.
5.The clients contact us in order to purchase these products and after they'll sign an agreement contract,we'll start the transaction.
6.We redirect the client's payment to you and after you'll keep our(and yours) earnings,it is your obligation to transfer the rest (85%) .
All the transfer fees will be supported by the supplier. Our company will never ask you to support or to invest a penny from your own pocket.

Requirements :
1. Elementary knowledge of payment transactions.
2. The possibility to accept both payment methods :

a) Checks
b) Money orders

3. Promptitude in sending the payment to the supplier.
4. Due to the high taxes concerning the transfer of money between US and Netherland,you have to keep our fee until the amount will become more than $1000 .
5. Ability to send us our commission on request.

Earnings :

1.Our company charges every transaction with 15% :
a) 10% is your earning to every transaction
b) 5% is our company fee
2.After you sign our contract,no matter how many transactions you will intermediate, our company will offer you a minimum income of $1,000.00 per month .

Interdiction :

1.Not to fulfill the terms of confidentiality between our clients.
2.Delaying the payment to our suppliers,after you have already received the buyer's amount(in the most cases our company shall request you to transfer the payment in the same day after you will get your errand).
3.Impossibility of transferring our earnings on request.

Note : If you don't respect one of the terms mentioned above,our collaboration will be over.

Top 5 earnings for the last month :

Theodor J. David,CA - $12,149.00
Timothy L. Fullerton,Fl - $11,021.00
Joseph Stanberry,CA - $11,003.00
Jennifer Houchens,WA - $10,714.00
Keith Kimbrough,WI - $10,242.00

If you fulfill our demands and you want to become one of us then answer the following questions :

1.Are you interested on a Full time or Part time job?
2.If you work part time then let us know how many hours per day .
3.Are you older than 21 years ?
4.Did you have problems with the law ?

Kind regards
Human resources department
Strootman Trading Bv <--------- This was what I used to Google them.

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