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Old 01-30-2008, 07:34 PM
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Hello forum.

I was going through dome searches for WorldVentures and found this discussion about the company.

First off I will say that I am with WorldVEntures and have been since November 2005.

I will try and answer any questions you all may have about the company, I will also defend the company as well.
  • WorldVentures was launched December 10,2005 (I joined 1 month before launch)

    Company is based in Plano Texas

    Company was totally debt free in its third month of business

    WV is a fully bonded and licensed travel company

    WV has over 55,000 Reps in the company in two years.

    WV has sole proprietary booking technoloy

    WV has a travel club membership called DreamTrips. This is a totally different "product" that being a Leisure Travel Consultant. This product can stand on its own.

    WorldVentures does not issue ID cards any longer to distance themselves from other card mills. They have taken proactive measures to ensure they are in good standing with all vendors. WV has strong vendor ties. WV was not asked to do this but did it themselves. That is the character of this company, be proactive instead of reactive.


Now most people will believe the first thing they read on the internet and call it fact. But the fact is that it is very easy for people to sit behind a keyboard and slam something they know nothing about.

All I ask is that you are in this discussion, please do more checking than a website where a link was provided above. If you notice that website is full of negative people that would not be successful in any business. Also take note that the negative comments STARTED TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE COMPANY EVEN LAUNCHED and come directly from COMPETING travel company members.

Also if you will notice there isn't really anything bad about he company. All the people have had gripes about are the leaders. If you can't find something bad about the company itself to gripe about, then attack the leaders and try and discredit the business that way.
Well I can tell you after two years in this company you will find no better leaders than with this company. There is so much more to the story than the people are saying over there. Most of it is not close to being accurate.

Yes they were in another travel company. (big downlines)

No they were not OFFICERS in the company. (had no say in the workings of the company. Just members with large downlines)

They went to the owner of the other travel company and told them they had developed a new booking technology and wanted to see if he would partner with them. The owner said NO

Shortly after Reps checks started bouncing or they never got paid at all (including the founders of WV)

That is when they broke away to start WorldVentures.

It was pretty simple, but when you read the stories at that website you would think that the people that started WV held people at gunpoint and stole their wallets. Couldn't be further than the truth.


Like ant business whether it be Btick and Mortar or Home Based, people will fail. That is a fact that hits every industry whether its McDonalds (yep I have a closed McD's right down the road from me) or if it is a home based business in the travel industry.

People tend to blame something else for their failure instead of taking responsability for their own. If you work a business like a hobby it will pay like a hobby. If you work it like a real business and work it thoroughly you will see results and income.

Just see the angle people have taken on the posts in that link and you will see an agenda.


Merry Christmas!
Christmas was great but now I am faced with a decision!!

World Ventures and I have crossed paths. Since that time I have received so much information both pro & con I don't know what to think!!
If they are legit which I am hoping as I have spoken to a couple of folks very high up at great length over the past week and a 1/2 and felt secure.
After doing a fair amount of research things started to look a little shaky!!
First do they or do they not have a legitimate IATAN # I found a listing with the following # 05584456 but if you go to Check A Code it is not recognized. Then I read they actually only have a TSI # which is a big difference!!
I am excited about this opportunity and hope this is the vehicle I have been looking for most of my adult life but I guess I won't know till everything falls into place.
Wish me luck!!

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Old 01-31-2008, 03:23 AM
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WorldVentures is not a scam. I have recently joined the company and have been totally satisfied with everything I have been a part off. I recently visited the Corporate office in Plano, Texas and was throughly impressed. CHeck out my website and book your travel through there. It is seriously cheap and legit prices, you wont be disappointed. Also, if you are interested in making some money and being a part of this company, watch the videos, and go to sign up.

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Old 02-17-2008, 09:11 PM
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Christmas was great but now I am faced with a decision!!

World Ventures and I have crossed paths. Since that time I have received so much information both pro & con I don't know what to think!!
If they are legit which I am hoping as I have spoken to a couple of folks very high up at great length over the past week and a 1/2 and felt secure.
After doing a fair amount of research things started to look a little shaky!!
First do they or do they not have a legitimate IATAN # I found a listing with the following # 05584456 but if you go to Check A Code it is not recognized. Then I read they actually only have a TSI # which is a big difference!!
I am excited about this opportunity and hope this is the vehicle I have been looking for most of my adult life but I guess I won't know till everything falls into place.
Wish me luck!!
As stated previously that is our old IATAN number and is no longer in use, so it will show inactive. Our new number that IS active is posted in this thread.

Also about a TSI. WV chose this because they do not sell airfare (issue tickets), they instead link you to other affiliates that sell them. The reasoning is that airfare alone is non-commissionable and therefore they chose to not issue tickets themselves. Since they link you to who has the lowest fare nothing more than a TSI is needed. It is all legitimate.

WorldVentures now has over 70,000+ Reps in the USA alone. The convention is March 6-8,2008 where I expect them to announce our international expansion.

Best of luck with WV, I have found a home with them and I hope you do as well.


Scott

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Old 03-10-2008, 09:08 AM
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as you can probably tell from my handle, I just got started with World Ventures. A lot of people have disparaging things to say about Network Marketing, so it doesn't surprise me that even a legitimate company with fantastic products like World Ventures would draw negativity. I don't know about legal terms, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know about the founder's backgrounds really, I just got started in this company.

All I know is this:

In the United States alone, 32.18 billion dollars were done in sales in Network Marketing. Worldwide, over 100 billion.
Worldwide there are 66 million people in thirteen different countries involved in network marketing.
One in eight households in the United States owns a homebased business.
One in three households in the United States owns a product made by a homebased business.
Travel is a 7 trillion dollar industry. Entertainment is a multi Billion dollar industry. Therefore the travel industry is (in terms of zeroes) one thousand times bigger than the entertainment industry. Lets say that network marketing companies take up one percent of the sales done in travel. One percent of 7 trillion: 70 billion. Lets say there are ten network marketing companies out there and each get an equal slice of that one percent. They all make 7 billion dollars. World Ventures has 75,000 members so far. Lets say it's a utopian world and everybody gets an equal slice of that pie. Every member would get 93,000 dollars a year. Now they don't give out money. You have to work the business, and some work it harder than others, and it's also not a utopian world, but you get the idea of the type of income that you can stake out for yourself.

You can say whatever you want, but those are facts.

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Old 03-10-2008, 08:55 PM
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No, I read them all. I just believe that you can never have too many people coming out in defense. The very fact that a thread on them exists on a "scam" website draws negative attention. I felt it important to give a few facts, not necessarily about World Ventures, but about Network Marketing in general.

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Old 03-11-2008, 03:10 AM
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I know people in World Ventures and it is a real company and they do what there plan says. However, what is the bottom line for being in a MLM company? Making money. There is nothing wrong with that, everyone wants to make money.

I have another friend in Canada who was thinking about signing up with Pro Travel Network and asked what I thought it. That company is pretty much like WV in the sense that they get "Vacation Points" etc.

The reason he asked is because I belong to YTB(Your Travel Biz.)

Here was my reply to him:

Let me show you some camparisions from the two companies:

ProTravel Monthly website fee and if not current, you don’t get your commissions.
YTB Monthly website fee until you have personally sponsored 6 people then it is reimbursed to you so from that point on there is zero overhead.

ProTravel Several level to achieve before getting all the income streams.
YTB You have the first team, an then the Power Team. Once you are in the Power Team you qualify for all the income and bonus schedules.

ProTravel You must make a sell every 90 days to remain active.
YTB There are no time limits for the sales or marketing side.

ProTravel Their site says up to $39,500 a month
YTB There are currently people making over $300,000 a month! (regular RTA's (referring travel agents) not the owners)

ProTravel 3% Overide on commissions earned and paid in Vacation points. Vacation points have to cash value and can only be used for travel.
YTB 10% Overide on all travel commission earned by all of their power team. Paid in dollars and can be used to by anything you want to spend it on, not just travel.

ProTravel Pays down 10 levels. $20, .50, .50. $1.00, $1.00, $1.50, $2.00, $2.50, $3.00, $6.00 and $8.00
YTB Pays down to infinity. $100 for each person directly sponsored and $50 for each person brought into your power team to infinity.

Protravel According to the ProTravel company matrix, you have 2 people directly below you and any other people "Spillover" to the next available spot.
YTB You can have as many people directly sponsored by you that you want to infinity.

Protravel You do get some Matching bonuses
YTB You get a 50% Matching bonus on all the people you directly sponsor. Personally I would rather have 50% of people making $100 a pop than 75% of $.50 to $20 a pop.



So now let me ask you a question. Why were you thinking about joining a travel company?
To make money right? (not to mention the travel benefits)

So let me ask you a few questions about Pro Travel Network.

• Do they give you a $1,000 bonus for every 6 people that come into your team?
• Do they give you a $10,000 bonus for every 100 people that come into you team?
• At 500 people, do they give you free top quality health insurance and a $150,000 life insurance policy?
o (This doesn’t apply to Canadians since you get free health insurance but it would very important if you were trying to sign up a person in the US.)
• Also at 500 people, do they give you a $2,000 base pay per month?

Also, and this is VERY important, take a look at the bottom of Pro Travel's compensation overview at http://www.protravelnet.com/pdf/comp...w_07_18_07.pdf.
It states that "Pro Travel Network has the right to modify this compensation plan at any time."

YTB has a "Bill of Rights" for it's RTA's filed with the government that it can never change it's compensation or bonus schedule! The only thing they could do is add to it, never take away from it.

No company out there can beat YTB's comp plan.

Jackson
YTBexplained.com

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Old 03-12-2008, 09:44 PM
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please answer me this how in the world do you people actually think that you are a travel agent this is the funniest thing i have ever heard-- you think that because you paid 399.00 you are a qualified agent i have been in the business --travel-- for 20 yrs and you people are a joke--as far as wv goes--its a MLM PEOPLE A PYRAMID SCHEME THAT WILL GO OUT OF B USINESS-THESE PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TRAVEL --ALL THEY KNOW IS HOW TO GET YOUR MONEY-ITS A RIP OFF AND ANYONE THAT ACTUALLY THINKS ITS NOT-DESERVES THEM

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Old 03-13-2008, 08:48 PM
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Thank you for the facts but seems that you concider all companies have equal share of the pie and this may drive you to wrong conclusions.
Oh, I'm not trying to say that all companies have an equal share of the pie at all, nor am I trying to say that everyone in this company is earning an equal 93,000 dollars. I'm just giving an idea of what kind of income can be made should people choose to put in the work.

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Old 03-13-2008, 09:08 PM
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please answer me this how in the world do you people actually think that you are a travel agent this is the funniest thing i have ever heard-- you think that because you paid 399.00 you are a qualified agent i have been in the business --travel-- for 20 yrs and you people are a joke--as far as wv goes--its a MLM PEOPLE A PYRAMID SCHEME THAT WILL GO OUT OF B USINESS-THESE PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TRAVEL --ALL THEY KNOW IS HOW TO GET YOUR MONEY-ITS A RIP OFF AND ANYONE THAT ACTUALLY THINKS ITS NOT-DESERVES THEM
1. Network marketing and Pyramid schemes are two different things.
2. World Ventures has partnered up with Archer Travel. An on land travel agency that has been in business for 52 years, more than double what you claim to have been in business.
3. World Ventures is the preffered reseller of MSC. In two years they're the number 1 reseller of Carnival cruises.
4. I just got a discount and upgrade on my trip to New York.
5. I'm going on a Dreamtrip with WorldVentures in June.
6. There are many travel agents involved in World Ventures. In fact, one of the members of my upline used to be an on land travel agent.
7. You're not a travel agent because you pay 399. You still have to take your test that World Ventures trains you to take.
8. The founders of this company put 4.6 million dollars back into developing its technology last year. They're putting 15 million back into the company over the next three years.
9. World Ventures has been featured in two magazines: Your Business at Home (June, 2007), and Success From Home (May, 2008. hits bookstores April 15th).
10. Donald Trump and Robert Kiyosaki endorse Network Marketing in WRITING, in their book "Why We Want you to be Rich."

You know what a Pyramid scheme means? The person at the top makes all the money, and the people at the bottom work their butt off and never see a piece of the pie. That's your 9-5 job.

In MLM, there's room at the top, and everybody starts at the bottom.

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Old 03-18-2008, 10:41 PM
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You know its funny how you can't even contact anyone in texas at the world ventures headquarters. I think its a rip off to make you pay 400 upfront then 35 a months for what so that you pay for your website upkeep and the big boys up top make all the money the wonder why those four guys have smiles on there face. I mean the website looks good but if someone buys an airline ticket from me i should get a percent of that sale or should i say commission another amway session what a joke.. you make the call its your lose. I would rather spend money to have a website built of my own and make all the money for what i sell this is just some guys that got tired of working for someone else and started a big scamming business..good luck to whoever joins this crapp

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