Originally Posted by shah

I was thinking of buying a second hand car from a guy in Italy. This how it went.......

Thank you for your interest in purchasing my car.
The vehicle is in good condition, has no technical damage at all, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects, no smoking.
It's fun and robust to drive. Technical inspection and emissions testing is passed and stamped as well. It has title of ownership, cleared of any obligations or fees and comes with all the documents you need to register it.
I have worked in UK for the last 2 years and I've purchased the car there. My company wanted me back home, so currently I'm in Rome, Italy. I've bring the car home with me. I decided that is better to sell it because I don `t use it anymore (the wheel is on right side and is very difficult for me to drive it in Italy) and it `s a pitty to keep such a car and not to use it.
I realize that is a cheap price for such a car but my special situation makes me do things that I wouldn't do in normal Circumstances.
The price I am looking for my car is £3,500 including the shipping costs,insurance and handling(delivery to EUROPE).
You will not have to pay additional taxes for this.

Then i got this email from a company called Edc Spedition,

Our company is the European market leader in global express and international mail services. Edc Spedition Ltd reduces risks associated with Internet transactions by acting as a licensed, trusted, neutral third party for on-line transactions. The seller leaves the merchandise into Edc Spedition Ltd custody.
The merchandise will remain in Edc Spedition Ltd custody until the buyer provides the payment informations to Edc Spedition Ltd. The payment will be made through a Wire Transfer Service. Once the funds are verified by Edc Spedition Ltd, the merchandise will be send to the buyer.

Edc Spedition Ltd Through this e-mail we have the pleasure to inform you that the merchandise has been left in our custody. The shipping fee was paid by the Seller. The Payment Informations about the Western Union Money Transfer must be sent to us for verification. The Payment Informations that you need to send to us are: Money Transfer Control Number, Sender's Name and Sender's Address, Receiver's Name and Receiver's Address. The Seller is unable to receive any information regarding the payment data. This action is restricted by a mutual agreement between the Seller and Edc Spedition Ltd.
The next step is to complete the deposit funds transfer via Western Union. Receiver of the payment £3,500.
Name and address of Edc Spedition Ltd agent:

Payment instructions:
************************************************** *****
Payment must be sent by: Western Union Money Transfer
Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment to our Edc Spedition Ltd agent.
To submit the payment with Western Union Money Transfer, you have to Pay for the transfer with cash at a local Western Union agent.
Amount to be sent: £3,500
To locate the agents in your area click here.
Western Union Money Transfer is the only service that has ultimate authentication of the identity of the receiver of funds. Several IDs and utility bills are required before the funds are paid. Therefore, no one else but your receiver have access to the money. Your payments cannot be lost in the mail, like money orders or checks.

But this looks like a scam. What do you THINK??? let me know ASAP

Originally Posted by linniees

I Have Been Tricked By Martin Rossi In Italy With A Company Called Edc Logistic. Iv Sent 5000aud To Italy To Get The Car I Wanted. Had Never Recieved The Car!! I Am Very Dissappointed!! People Who Have Heard About Edc Scams Or Had Been Tricked By Them, Please Get Back To Me With Ur Story ! I Am Taking This Case Further With The Italy Police And My Local Police. I Need People To Support Me As This Is A Major Affect For Everyone!! People Who Had Heard About Them, Any Info Or Any Stories Thats Similar, Please Email Me. I Am Hoping To Discuss The Western Union From Italy To Get A Video Surveilance Of This Person To Catch This Person. I Want My Money Back, So If You Want This To Stop, Pls Pls Email Me.

Originally Posted by Hollie Ann

i almost fell for her/him, i got suspicious typed in Dr Joanna Parker on google and this website came up, i'm so disappointed i have wanted a mini cooper for years and just when i think its almost possible, too good to be true, this happens....
here are our email conversations as follows; this person/persons need to be caught and i have every intention of making it happen, they are still active on AUTOTRADER i had to remove all email addresses from this post because i do not have a post count of 10 or more but believe me this is true!

Hello,
I regret the delay of my response.
I already have many emails so I hope you'll understand that I need to sort them.
My name is Joanne Parker I have 31 years old and I was doctor for 3 years in Leeds. I am glad you are
interested in my car 2006 MINI COOPER 1.6 3DR HATCHBACK.
First, I want you to know that I lived in Leeds until 2 months ago, but now I'm in Greece because I am
pregnant and I have decided to give birth in my home country so I want to sell my car and move back in Greece.
The car is in perfect working condition. It is in showroom condition, no scratches, no dents, full service
history, HPI clear, no outstanding finance, non-smoking, never involved in any accident and it has 30588 miles.
The car is still UK registered and now it is locked in my garage in Leeds. If you dicide to buy it you will receive the original invoice, logbook, keys and all the documents to register it into your name .
Genuine reason for sale: unfortunately I can't register the car here because you know it is very hard to drive
a Right-hand car here.
I want £2,500 + shipping to your door for the car. To calculate the shipping fees send me your address.
Due to amount involved and due the fact that I am not located in the United Kingdom, I only accept third party
transaction mediator.
I have chosen the ebay Shipping Center Program to take care of all the proceedings, so the car will be shipped
by ebay.
Beside shipping the car, ebay will act as the middle man - holding the payment until you receive and inspect
it. You will have one week inspection period.
Regarding the payment method I would like to use ebay like a third part for the payment because in my opinion
this is the safest way to handle the transaction. You will have the car for inspection and test drive BEFORE
any money is released to me.
Look how this work:
1. I will contact them , and I will send your shipping information to ebay to open the transaction.
2. They will send you a payment invoice for the car (the invoice will be from customer support team) about
how to make the payment.
3. The invoice contains all the info about this transaction and you must follow the steps written there to
complete the deal with me.
4. After all that will be done, the car will be shipped by ebay, and the car will arrive at your address in
3 to 5 days..
5. Buyer accepts delivery and informs eBay to tell them if he is satisfied or not
6. ebay will release the money to the seller(in case the buyer is satisfied) or to the buyer(in case that
he is not satisfied).
This means a 3rd party.
You will receive a tracking # in the same day when the car will be shipped from ebay.
I am using the protection and shipping program offered by ebay Shipping Center because this will protect both
of us and also it is the fastest way to complete this deal.
If you want to go on with this deal , mail me immediately your shipping address to contact ebay and calculate
the shipping cost .

Front fog lights High level 3rd brake light
Rear wash/wipe 15" alloy wheels
6 Speed Manual Adjustable steering column
Carpet mats Cup holders front
Illuminated vanity mirrors Rear head restraints
Split folding rear seat Cloth trim
Air conditioning Auxiliary power socket (12v)
Electric mirrors Service indicator
Trip computer ABS
PAS Radio/CD
Alarm Locking wheel nuts
Run flat tyres Driver and front passenger airbags
Pillar airbags Seat side airbags
Tyre repair kit
Service history Full
Last service 18/12/2007
Mileage at service 25201
Let me know if you are interested ...


Hello again,
The car is still available for 2500 GBP + 100 shipping cost, if you want to buy it please give me your
full name and shipping address to contact ebay and have them send you the invoice.
About the payment process you must know that:
You must deposit the full price amount + shipping fees , fully refundable ( including money transfer fees ) to
Escrow ebay's Agent.
After that you must fax to ebay all the receipts of payment allowing them to start the shipping because as I
told you in my first email, the car will be shipped by ebay and they can't start the shipping process until
you send the payment receipts.
As soon as they confirm your payment, they will ship you the car and give you the tracking number. When you
will receive the car and all the documents (naturally, I will sign the section 8 in the V5 form so you can
easily transfer the car into your name) you must send a confirmation to ebay to tell them if everything is OK
with the car so they can send me the payment.
If, for some reason, you disagree with the car ( I assure you that is NOT going to happen since my car is in
IMMACULATE condition in and out ) it will be shipped back to me on MY EXPENSE and ebay will send you all your
money back.
From the moment you receive the car you have 7 days to inspect it. If is not like I said or something is not
ok with it you can reject it and ebay will fully refund you and the vehicle will be shipped back to me, on my
expense.
ebay will transfer the money to me, only after you will confirm, them the purchase of the vehicle. Until then,
the money will be safe kept by ebay and not released to me.
I'm waiting your email with your full name and shipping address to contact ebay. As soon as I send them your
details they will send you the invoice with all the info about this process.
They will also send you the ebay's Agent details (name and address) where you must send the money.
The car will be shipped directly to your requested address, as soon as I will have the payment confirmation
from ebay. They will hold the money until you will receive, inspect and accept the car.
If you want to go on with this deal through ebay please email me as soon as possible YOUR FULL NAME AND
ADDRESS, and I will forward them to ebay along with the rest of the details, to open a case regarding our
deal.

Regards!
Nice doing business with you.

> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your response...with regards to my address it is as follows,
>
> 2 Conrad Gardens
> Grays
> Essex
> RM16 2TN
>
> if you could calculate the total price for me for the shipping fees it will be much appreciated.
>
> Hollie




Just let me know your name and address and the car will be yours,I don't need the other person's name that he will make the payment,

Regards!


> i am very interested in buying this car, i currently have just finished a course of treatment at hospital and so i'm in Malta at present, i can give you my full name and billing address, however, i won't be the person initially paying for the car, is that a matter of concern do you need to know the other persons name?
> the price is very good for a car like this, so its an opportunity i must take up on.
> i need to make a few phone calls with family and arrange things, as we speak i am doing this and it shouldn't take long.
>
> Regards
>
> nice doing business with you too


I have contacted eBay with your info and all the
necessary stuff to start a case for our deal and they must get in
touch with you shortly with more details on how to proceed
(please check your bulk or spam email).
Please email me after you receive the email form from ebay!
Thanks again!


>
>
> Hello
>
> Just to make another check before i make this payment tomorrow, ebay use a system known as paypal they don't allow any payments to be made in cash, if you are using ebay shouldn't i be paying by card with paypal? i'm just aware of some people that con, forgive me for asking but it is natural to think this. If this is not to do with paypal, could you explain as the money is ready to be sent.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Hollie


Hi,
I understand your concern,but I'm not eligible to use paypal here in Greece,that's the reason I want to make this deal via money gram.

Regards!

Originally Posted by markwsf

Hi,

I found your forum after almost getting caught out. The deal looked to good to be true, and yes, of course it is.

Going through my case, I think I've found a possible way to catch these guys...

They must get the car details plus copies of the V5 and a selection of bills by going to view a car when it is offered for sale, they then use low resolution copies of these to help with their story that they own the car.

In my case, the V5 was just about clear enough to make out the previous owners name, and through directory enquiries I have his phone number. I will try and phone him tonight to alert him that his old car is being used for a scam, hopefully he will also alert the current owner.

Most usefully, he must have met the scam artist when he viewed the car, and would remember who he was, as he took pictures of the documents. This means we've got a fighting chance of getting this guys actual phone number (from when he arranged the appointment). He probably never figured on being traced back, so this is probably his real number. With his number, it's possible to either go through the phone company to find his identity, or to set up a meeting under some false pretence.

If the police were willing to get involved, we could catch him...

I believe it's possible to get to him thorough other scams too, just respond, ask to see the documents, he will send a low-res copy of the V5 and from there we can contact the owner...

Does anyone agree that this is worth trying ?

Mark

Originally Posted by linniees

I Have Been Tricked By Martin Rossi In Italy With A Company Called Edc Logistic. Iv Sent 5000aud To Italy To Get The Car I Wanted. Had Never Recieved The Car!! I Am Very Dissappointed!! People Who Have Heard About Edc Scams Or Had Been Tricked By Them, Please Get Back To Me With Ur Story ! I Am Taking This Case Further With The Italy Police And My Local Police. I Need People To Support Me As This Is A Major Affect For Everyone!! People Who Had Heard About Them, Any Info Or Any Stories Thats Similar, Please Email Me. I Am Hoping To Discuss The Western Union From Italy To Get A Video Surveilance Of This Person To Catch This Person. I Want My Money Back, So If You Want This To Stop, Pls Pls Email Me.

Originally Posted by idk

Hi,

Can you please email back and we can then liase direct. I have been seeking people who have had similar issues happened to contact me but not heard back from anyone. May coz I'm new and maybe my access to certain links have been blocked off.

Please email back. Thanks!!