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Old 10-31-2007, 02:54 PM
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No...not yet anyway. Remember.........it's not about the mortgages. If they are implicated, that may be a seperate action.
Thank You Sage for prompt response. Just bear with me, trying to make sense of all this. You have been most helpful. It just is odd to me that one of the major players lives in my neighborhood and the house, autos, etc. have not been touched. It just seems unfair. Also, since one of the major players is married to the CEO/Founder/President (not sure of the correct title) of Di Vine Foundation, I would think that those assets would need to be investigated also. I believe they received non-profit statis in Spring, but how do they generate the money to provide supposed services for children. The flyers they put in our mailboxes advertising free events for children about two weeks ago, WERE THE ONLY ADVERTISEMENTS EVER SEEN HERE, only after the problems began. Do they need to do a certain number of events to maintain non-profit status? Can you hide/spend money in a foundation such as this?

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Old 11-01-2007, 02:33 AM
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The legal documents attached to the Receiver's link contain a fairly extensive list of individuals including both Isaac and Bethena Smith. I expect thier non-finacial assets will eventually come under scrutiny. The 50 automobiles were apparently all registered to the company, but I don't know if there were all seized or maybe they are still parked in driveways, etc.

I am sure there are numerous ways to exploit the laws surrounding charitable organizations, but at least it sounds like the activities are legit even if the source of funds is not. Many references were made to "doing good for others" including contributions to injured firefighters, hurricane victims and several others. I doubt the activites will continue much longer if they have not already ceased.

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Old 11-01-2007, 04:29 AM
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Thank You Sage for prompt response. Just bear with me, trying to make sense of all this. You have been most helpful. It just is odd to me that one of the major players lives in my neighborhood and the house, autos, etc. have not been touched. It just seems unfair. Also, since one of the major players is married to the CEO/Founder/President (not sure of the correct title) of Di Vine Foundation, I would think that those assets would need to be investigated also. I believe they received non-profit statis in Spring, but how do they generate the money to provide supposed services for children. The flyers they put in our mailboxes advertising free events for children about two weeks ago, WERE THE ONLY ADVERTISEMENTS EVER SEEN HERE, only after the problems began. Do they need to do a certain number of events to maintain non-profit status? Can you hide/spend money in a foundation such as this?
Who is the major player.... I also read that Kevin Elliott ex-BB&T resides in the same neigborhood as one of the major players. What connection does he have with MDH?

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Old 11-01-2007, 04:38 AM
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Just a question. With available assets that low, why can't homes owned by those involved, ex., the 900 thousand plus home in Spotsy, the million dollar vacation home in SC, the Mercedes, etc, etc, etc, be confiscated for the benefit of those who lost funds. Aren't these considered assets also? If these homes were purchased with cash, don't the individuals involved have to show where that "cash" came from? And what if the homes were put in another persons name, are they then exempt from any attachment to this? Just wondering.

Also, aren't the banks, appraisers, mortgage loan officers, realtors, builders, etc., involved responsible also?
That's what confuses me, what responsiblity does the banks and the mortgage loan officers, buliders have?

If the mortgage loan officers knew what the customers were getting themselves into, then how could you not hold them responsible too.


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Old 11-01-2007, 09:53 AM
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Who is the major player.... I also read that Kevin Elliott ex-BB&T resides in the same neigborhood as one of the major players. What connection does he have with MDH?
Don't know of any concrete connection other than what I read by Cathy Jett in the paper. Just read all the info she wrote about and followed all the info at scam.com and city forum.com before they shut that site down.

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Old 11-02-2007, 12:32 AM
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:45 PM
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Don't know of any concrete connection other than what I read by Cathy Jett in the paper. Just read all the info she wrote about and followed all the info at scam.com and city forum.com before they shut that site down.
Cathy Jett mentioned several people that were "terminated" by BB&T the unfortunate part is that she was unable to substantiate this before she printed it. I am also a resident of the same neighborhood and I happen to know Kevin Elliott and have spoken to him several times about this. He is quite upset with Isaac Smith for lying to him and with Andrew Williams for missleading all the investors. Many of the people involved with this were in the wrong place at the wrong time and have not done anything illegal or secretive. I think this is a select group of people that committed fraud. As for Mr Elliott, he is a very honest man and if you take the time to know him you'd know he has no relationship with these people. He is involved in the community and should not be lumped in with these folks by default.

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Old 11-09-2007, 01:32 AM
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:47 AM
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Cathy Jett mentioned several people that were "terminated" by BB&T the unfortunate part is that she was unable to substantiate this before she printed it. I am also a resident of the same neighborhood and I happen to know Kevin Elliott and have spoken to him several times about this. He is quite upset with Isaac Smith for lying to him and with Andrew Williams for missleading all the investors. Many of the people involved with this were in the wrong place at the wrong time and have not done anything illegal or secretive. I think this is a select group of people that committed fraud. As for Mr Elliott, he is a very honest man and if you take the time to know him you'd know he has no relationship with these people. He is involved in the community and should not be lumped in with these folks by default.

Elliott may be a totally honest person, but he was obviously no good at his job. Anyone with a lick of sense should have seen that this was a scam from a mile away. Certainly a financial professional in his position should have had doubts and done some research into the company. Don't you remember that Williams has a record of being barred from investments in Maryland? A professional should have done his homework and had Elliott done so he would have uncovered proof that Williams should not have been trusted in any way.

Any professionals who worked with MDH should be removed from their jobs due to gross negligence. Just consider the potential liability they have exposed their company to.

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Old 11-11-2007, 05:01 PM
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Elliott may be a totally honest person, but he was obviously no good at his job. Anyone with a lick of sense should have seen that this was a scam from a mile away. Certainly a financial professional in his position should have had doubts and done some research into the company. Don't you remember that Williams has a record of being barred from investments in Maryland? A professional should have done his homework and had Elliott done so he would have uncovered proof that Williams should not have been trusted in any way.

Any professionals who worked with MDH should be removed from their jobs due to gross negligence. Just consider the potential liability they have exposed their company to.

Elliott may be a honest person although he has to be missing a few brain cells. What about the others who worked at BB&T, Wasn't the manager of the department let go too? and the # 1 lender for the Bank was involved. Please don't insult us. Please explain how the #1 lender for a bank and the manager of the Mortgage department would allow this to happen or be involved without knowing the facts. It stinks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

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