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10-08-2007, 07:45 PM
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I still just wonder if any of the folks affected by this, other than Re-f are even reading these posts. In the beginning we had a lively pro and con debate...........now all the pro MDH posters are silent and we're just talking among ourselves.......or so it seems. Hopefully more folks that are affected will get the message and do something. The assets are evaporating.
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10-09-2007, 03:13 AM
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I don't want to sound overly critical, but I certainly do not know "what the heck you are saying". Sorry, but I just don't get anything from questions and pointers to web sites that don't address the issues. I hope your situation improves soon.
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10-09-2007, 04:47 AM
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I wonder too.
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Maybe people are not reading the internet but are embarrassed about having to come up with multiple mortgage payments this month for houses they don't live in, but just bought with their credit. Just a rumor but I heard that one family is caught with making almost $45,000 in payments this month, just on their investment alone. Thanks. I am still trying to get the messages out. Not very well obviously, but I'm a one woman show. Be well. R-FM
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10-09-2007, 06:21 PM
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A little gray in the darkness
I was approached by a coworker on my job in January of this year. I was told about the program which has been pretty much detailed in this and sister blogs. I took it upon myself to do the numbers and they didn't work out. So I never went to any meeting...feeling I didn't need to hear a sales pitch if I weren't buying anyway. I can't give any details but it was "inferred" by my coworker (who is a boardmember) at the time that many "notable" people were heavily vested in the program. He said that there were alot of people in police departments, government, realtors, school boards, media, commissioners, doctors and even lawyers and politicians who were using the program to get larger homes and especially investment properties. Maybe this can start to explain why things are moving so slowly. I would imagine that these people are members of organizations, fraternaties, sororities and families with a lot of clout with friends and family in investigative agencies and the media. Reading some of the posts I was struck by the Holier-than-thou attitudes of some of the posters. "Were smart and you're dumb" doesn't do anything to explain whats happening here. These are real people who for whatever reasons or motivations decided to do this and there will be a result- good or Bad depending on your position or perpective on this. I really have no opinion on what happens. It is what it is. People who are served a little bit of black pepper will probably try it again at some point and if they're served tepin flakes they probably won't.
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10-09-2007, 06:25 PM
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10-10-2007, 03:59 PM
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People have stopped posting here because "it's [finally] not about the Mortgages"
I went back over the City-Data board thread where I first found people affected by this scandal were actively posting from all sides. And it was "all about the mortgages" with most with a few occasional business questions thrown in for good measure as well as some other posters like Sagegriot and Scamme and nalegeforya and justamom & OTHERS and suggesting other collateral damage and other wrongdoings and hoping "enablers" get caught too.
I know I've posted long and loud and perhaps confusingly to many, but the sad truth is that other than the mortgage problem sites like this, there is no one talking about the real fraud and organized crime and systematic destruction of these families and businesses. MDH and the principles and enablers ARE NOT AMATUERS and will be able to continue. And when the small potatoes of only $10k per month to some or approx a $100Million in whole problem doesn't even begin to approach enforceable or something that the gov agencies will spend time on cause their time is spent elsewhere on bigger stuff (war on terror or Enron for Billion(s))... or attorneys that can't see enough "what's in it for me" money available (attorney yesterday told me even $300k not enough to make him take the case or start class action and that even he couldn't afford himself)... we probably won't see anything new, no charges filed or no prosecution efforts and these organized repeat offenders will keep re-animating and scamming with "the mortgages" continuing to be an afterthought crime and just as effective. But I hope the concerned citizens that may see this will keep learning something new and challenging the abuse of power and keep scraping below the surface to find the answers to the real problems that are not about the mortgages. I hope that some may decipher my prior posts that were not intended to confuse but were intended to help the discussion move off the mortgages. p.s. to ralphmalph' I hope you saw David Letterman last night or YouTube it -- the interview with Alan Greenspan where DL said "what exactly did you do" and AG pulled out a piece of money and said "we print this" and "we make the economy work". Metro Dream Homes wins because they get people to invest and strip "assets" for cash for only cash's sake. that area is where the analysis of the really smart people posting here should go. I'm not being holier-than-thou or condescending, just moving forward and trying to help the investigations. Thanks. r-fm Last edited by re-foundingmother : 10-10-2007 at 04:06 PM. Reason: typo error
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10-10-2007, 04:30 PM
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Interesting Read!
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10-11-2007, 12:18 AM
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10-12-2007, 07:55 PM
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from Scamdotcom
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Originally Posted by Iwilltell View Post A friend of mine went to their MD office and the place was cleaned out. Does anyone know what happened to them today? Well, I don't know if what you say is true about "cleaned out" and how would your friend know that unless they could get in to the office? I also saw two other individuals with children knocking on the door today looking for this company's representatives. Hmmm... What I know is that there were plenty of cars in the parking lot on Wed and activity at the office when I drove by (being in the neighborhood, it is easy to drive by) And then on Thurs I drove by again only to see no cars, empty lot (including the area they use at Denny's lot) and LOTS of people intermittenly stopping by to try to get in, all in less than the 90 minutes that I know about. (Believe me, I'm not stalking the joint, just running errands, Rt 1 is Rt 1 and one way street and there is no other way to go and with construction it takes longer time.) Notice the RV unit is no longer in back parking lot... or is it? And other offices.... POSCafe and Billboards and Captive TV... all closed up and empty parking lots just yesterday. PointNet still has people working today or at least the right cars in the parking lot. Someone had to know that the AG was coming on Thurs to tell all these people not to come to work. Notice this link where as short a time ago as Oct 10, people posting support for this company working things out. This may be the place to find info out as well as other posting sites like 419legal.org. Please check there and or post there too. http://www.realestatecng.com/discuss...TOKEN=34701061 So I hope you will tell what you know to the other concerned citizens still checking this site. Thanks.
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10-12-2007, 08:41 PM
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apparently my link in last post did not work... here's content
Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages)
Respond to The Posting Ron Briggs Just interested in finding out if anyone knows anything about Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC. I recently found out about them and their Wealth Building Program that helps people payoff their mortgages. I'd be interested in discussing the details of the program with anyone that is interested but also wanted to know if anyone has already invested in the program. Feel free to give me a call: Ron Briggs 301-332-0441 Accelerate Your Success Today! Get Your Questions Answered OR Promote Your Business/Deal! Topic Post Date/Time Posted by Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) 06/22/07 - 01:03 AM Ron Briggs RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) The FBI closed the place down in Laurel and also the DC office. It is surfacing that Andy Williams got locked up today. No one is answering phones...the crew is gone and the employess(bottom feeders) were told to go home and only take their personal belongings. 10/12/07 - 03:54 PM Wantu2know RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) I work with people who are in this program and their mortgages have not been paid since September. As a matter of fact, they (the members) were asked to float their payments until at least November. Mr. Williams and the rest of the board should come clean with these poor people. Do the members really think things will change between now and November? 10/07/07 - 04:33 PM Jay RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) Ron, I would suggest that you do your own research and form your opinion on this matter. My guess is that all who are making negative comments and posting unsubstantiated articles from the web are just broke, bitter skeptics. Yes, the site has been put on hold because of the court order, but will be resume once the air clears. I am sure if you have the privilede to speak to anyone who actually invests in the company, you will get a whole different view of things, but you have to actually be somebody first and not a 2bit hustler looking for a get rich quick opportunity. These skeptics are not investors and if they consider owning a few shares of stock an investment, then you really don't need to talk to them. The people who invest in Metropolitan Grapevine are highly educated and financially sound Black Americans. For once, an African American owned company is trying to do great things for its people and the OTHERS get scared. Scared of what, you ask? Scared of our drive, our ability to adapt and overcome, scared that they are going to loose CONTROL of us so they us once again. I have faith that this will blow over and Metropolitan Grapevine will continue to great things. And there it is... 10/04/07 - 12:20 PM Cynthia RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) This company is indeed a scam. They are currently under investigation, the website has been shut down. They have operated under different names to sucker people in. washingtonpost.com 10/04/07 - 10:44 AM Derrick RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) Metropolitan Dream Homes is not a scam. The scammers are the mortgage brokers who convince you to purchase a home and have you sign a 30 year mortgage at 7% and they end up making three times the principal in interest payments alone. Those are the scammers. For once, a black owned company is doing something to help others grow and the skeptics are on attack. If you are afraid of thinking outside of the box, then that is your issue but don't attack those who do and stop slandering the company. If the investment is too risky, then so be it but stop lashing out at those who have the guts and the capital to go forth with it. Another informed and satisfied Investor 10/02/07 - 10:42 PM Cynthia RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) It's a sham company. This company has no revenue other than that derived by new "customers". It is a Ponzi scheme. They have recently been barred from operating in Virginia. 10/02/07 - 09:28 AM Bob RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) Well, I believe that Joe Dokes makes a valid point. However, I would like to know why income statements would be proprietary information. Joe is right when he states that an income statement is a basic document for anyone to see who is looking to make an investment. I disagree with the statement that this is proprietary information. Proprietary information is information that a company would not want others to have because it would give a competitor an unfair advantage or advantage that may be detrimental to their business. What would cause this company to be in a detrimental position if they provided an income statement? Companies have employees sign non-competition agreements while they are employed. Is this a required to join this organization. If so, what information would be considered proprietary? I believe that Joe makes an exellent point and this really does sound like a scam. Mike Kenner 07/18/07 - 11:53 PM Mike Kenner RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) Ron, have you hear anything via phone? I am interested in getting more information as well. 916-224-3237 06/29/07 - 06:03 AM Denise RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) please let me know more about this Ron. Patrice genuine_connectionsllc@yahoo.com 06/22/07 - 09:29 AM patrice RE: RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) I think that you guys should take a look at Scam.com There is a lot of interesting information about Metropolitan Grapevine on that website 08/31/07 - 02:39 PM Lia RE: RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) Can you explain how you can make statements that suggest these kinds of returns? How can your company pay off mortgages when banks and finance companies haven't figured this out? Isn't it true that one of the founders of this company is/was under Federal Investigation for a similar "investment" program? This sounds like a Ponzi Scheme to me. Do you have balance sheets and income statements that were prepared by a reputable accounting firm? Are you listed with the Securities and Exchange Commission? Who makes up your Board? What is the background of these members that cause them to be able to "invest" money and payoff mortgages? What is the return on investment? How can you guarantee a return? Even large investments companies such as Smith Barney, Fidelity, Chase Bank, and other large investments brokers/bankers don't make these claims? How can you? I would like to know how all of this is possible? Why hasn't Money Magazine, or any of the other large magazine publications have heard about you? Why is it a secret? If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is just that, too good to be true. Joe Dokes Informed Investor 07/16/07 - 12:24 AM Joe Dokes RE: RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) You are an idiot. hahaha. The company gets banned from doing business and you're going to try to play the "minority" card. hahaha. Duh. D.C. Metro Area - Has anyone heard of Metro Dream Homes? 06/27/07 - 09:31 AM Sara RE: RE: RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) I just recieved an invitation to join, but decided to wait and do some back ground research. Thank God I did, because for six weeks now no one has returned my phone calls and the web site is shut down. Does anyone know whats going on? 08/19/07 - 03:49 AM sheila RE: RE: RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) Yes, this is a legal company with BBB approval in MD, VA and DC. I've been a Board member and partner since March '06 and I have not had any problems. All my mortgages get paid each month. If anyone is interested in finding out more about us, visit: Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC or contact me via email. I would love to tell you more To Sara, If you don't know about this company, you shouldn't make false statements without doing proper research. I can understand you are skeptical because our company is so unique but trust me; it's true and completely legit. Alicia 07/09/07 - 11:35 AM Alicia RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) 06/27/07 - 01:41 PM RE: RE: RE: RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) I wonder if any of the Metro Dream Home members on thread had their mortgages paid yet for September or October? According to the Attorney General, the cease and desist order did not order this program to stop paying the mortgages as Andrew Williams stated. This order was only for Metro Dream Homes to stop bringing in new homeowners. So to Alicia, since you are a so-called "Board member", were your mortgages paid these past few months or is Andrew Williams still lying to you at these cult meetings in order to keep you & your equity revenue part of his pyramid. Also Cynthia, stop trying to use the race issue as cover up for this crime. It's not whether he's black or any other race, it's a matter of a federal crime being committed. 10/06/07 - 07:57 AM Trina RE: RE: Has anyone heard of Metropolitan Grapevine, LLC? (the company that's paying off mortgages) Although Joe Dokes has asked some good questions, most of the information he's asking about is considered proprietary information. A decision to participate in this program is voluntary. One must determine their level of risk. Accoridngly, each person must conduct their own risk analysis as with any financial decision to determine whether the program is for them. If you've determined this program is too risky for you - that's o'kay because not all investments are for everyone. It is what it is. Just as Informed - Investor
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