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Old 05-25-2008, 06:48 PM
Rabia Rabia is offline
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Default EDC European Delivery Company


Hello,

First af all my englisch is not very well but i understand it very good.
I'm from holland and i have been scam. I saw a car on speurders.nl and is send the man an email that i'm interst. The man called thomas edison send me this

1e email:
Hello,
The car is in great working condition, has no scratches or dents, never been involved in any kind of accidents. The car interior is impeccable (i do not smoke). The engine works perfectly. I can ensure you that the car is full operational. The car has all the revisions made at an authorized service. You can also see in the photos i posted that the car is in perfect condition. I am the first owner of this car which was bought new .
I bought this car from Netherlands at the same time when i bought a holiday house there. Due to some financial problems i am having i had to sell the holiday house a few weeks ago. I did not manage to sell the car too when i sold the house because i did not have a lot of time at my disposal so i decided to take the car with me in England and try to sell it here in England. At this time the car is located in Bristol, United Kingdom same place where me and my family live.
I have tried to sell it in England, but it is very difficult to sell it in England due to the fact that it has the steering wheel on the left side ( in England the cars have the steering wheel on the right side ). I also tried to sell it to a local dealer but the price that they are offering to me is too low. I have decided to sell the car to an Netherlands person because the car is still registered in Netherlands and has Netherlands papers ( plate number and also Netherlands certificate ).
As i am very busy with my new work contract ( i am a construction engineer ) i can not come to Netherlands to sell the car there. I prefer to sell the car at a lower price then the market price and close the deal using an escrow company ( a company that ensures safety for buyer and seller at the same time ). The name of the escrow company is EDC Express Delivery Company. The car is currently located in their custody. I left it here because i am very busy with my job and I really do not have the necessary time to sell the car. If we understand to close the deal this company will take care of all the shipping arrangements, including to make the transfer of propriety onto your name. It will take 5 business days to have the car delivered to The Netherlands and the car will come with 10 days return policy ( In case the car won't meet your conditions you have the right to return it back without paying any taxes and your money will be refunded to you ). The escrow company services are very good and it is much easier for me to use this company because they will take car of all the paper work and I do not need to come to The Netherlands to close the deal in person.
If you are interested in buying the car, the total price including the transport taxes to The Netherlands country and also the transfer of propriety onto your name is 3500 EURO.
That's all i can say for the moment, but if you are interested in having more information about the transaction or the car i would be glad to reply.
I also accept local pick up for the car and i would be more then happy to assist for a meeting.
Here you have my contact information:
96 Whiteladies Road
Bristol Bristol
BS8 2QX
United Kingdom
+44 (703) 187-3763
Thank you!

I send him an email that i want the car.

2e email:

Hello,
As mentioned in my previous message, the car is located in Bristol, United Kingdom and i intend to ship it from here through an authorized shipping company ( an escrow company will work for both of us). I want to handle the delivery and payment of the car through an escrow company. Using this type of company will give you the chance to inspect the car before I receive the payment for it. I will explain to you step by step how this will work:
A. First of all and most important, if you agree to close the deal, you will have to send me your shipping information ( your full name and address/ contact phone number and if available also a fax number ).
1. After I receive your shipping information, I will contact the escrow company and make the shipping reservation onto your name and with your shipping address as the intended receiver. Then i will go to their office to make the transfer of the propriety onto your name. The transfer of the propriety will be done to the Netherlands Consulate from London (the location of the shipping company) by a legal attorney that works for the Escrow company and i will support the taxes for making the transfer of propriety onto your name.
B. You will receive a notification from the escrow service as a confirmation that the car is in their custody, that the car has been inspected and that I have signed for the transfer of the ownership documents to your name.
1. After that, you will have to send the payment to the escrow service .
2. The escrow service will verify the Transfer, and if everything is in order, they will deliver the car to your door step. ( they require only a deposit amount of 50% that means 1.750 euros , not the entire amount that we are dealing for ). The rest of amount you will have to pay upon car arrival to your address.The payment is sent to the escrow company and not to me directly. The payment will be forwarded to me only after you receive the car and confirm that you accept it.
3. After you will receive the car and you will be completely satisfied with it, you will instruct the escrow service with your decision.
C. If by any reason, you will not be satisfied with the product, you will return the car to the escrow service with no expense. ( i will support all the returning taxes )
The car will come with 10 days Return Policy ( period to inspect the car condition and if by any reason you won't be satisfied, you will be fully refunded within 24 hours).
The name of the Escrow company is EDC Express. Their website is: :Got anything to ship? Use Our Third Party Agency: . Please take a look at the services they are offering and tell me what's your opinion. If you agree to close the deal then send me the information i requested from you above and in maximum 24 hours all arrangements will be done.
Thank you!

+44 (703) 187-3763
Thomas Edison

3e email:

Hello,
Thank you for your cooperation and for providing the requested information. I have just made the reservation for the delivery of the car to the name and address you gave me. The delivery company is waiting for me to make the transfer of the propriety so they can start the transaction and prepare the necessary documents. They told me that the arrangements will not take longer than 24 hours. That means that in maximum 24 hours i will contact you with ( the tracking number ). Once the arrangements are finished, the shipping company will contact you with more details about the transaction to your email. That's all for the moment. I will contact you with more details after the delivery arrangements are complete.
Best Regards!

4e email:

Hello,
I have finished the shipping arrangements. The tracking number for your shipment is ***** You can verify the shipping information on the web address of the shipping company ( :Got anything to ship? Use Our Third Party Agency: ). The shipping company said that in the next hours they will also contact you with the confirmation of the shipment and also future details regarding the transaction.
Please let me know if everything is ok and if you have received the instructions from the shipping company. I have used their Third Party Agency. This is the best service that they are offering and is 100% secure.
Thank you!

Than the compagny send me also an email that i need to make transaction over with WESTERN UNION 1.750 euro.

After that

They send me a second email that i need to send the second transaction off 1.750 euro.

I'm really stuppid that i send the company the money together 3500 euro.

Can somebody give me information to get my money back or to find this man. Because i live in Holland.

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Old 05-26-2008, 03:09 PM
Rabia Rabia is offline
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Is there nobody who can help me with this problem.

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Old 05-26-2008, 08:15 PM
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is the shipping company this one ?
:killed by fake-hunter-group:

if yes, its a FAKE

if you have paying via western-union, make a status-check here:
Western Union Money Transfer - Online geld overmaken - Internationale geldtransacties Nederland
is the money on WU-Station, call the hotline of WU and STOP the payment.
is the money not on station............money in the hands of gangster-group...away

if you hase paying via banc-account to a banc in spain or england, contact your money-wash-officer in your banc.
He must call the money-wash-officer in the target-banc for blocking the target-account....HURRY, FAST !!!


Last edited by georg : 05-27-2008 at 12:36 PM.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:47 AM
Awareriskinc Awareriskinc is offline
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Dear Rabia

Sorry, couldn’t give you a prompt reply and welcome to 419Legal.

A member georg gives you very good advice.

So would like to add another suggestion.

The thing to do as well is to try contacting your local police or law enforcement and report the fraudulence with all correspondences (emails to and from the scammers) and the evidence of your remittances.
Also if you reveal your bank account or credit card details, it would be better to get in touch with your bank or credit card company whether to close your account or not to secure your money.
Even if they try to contact you again, DON’T reply to them further or if you are contacted by some other unknown person to help retrieve your money, that is all fake. You will lose your money more.

Below is a link something helps you.
419 fraud complaint Netherlands <--- click here!!

Awareriskinc

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Old 06-09-2008, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabia View Post

Hello,

First af all my englisch is not very well but i understand it very good.
I'm from holland and i have been scam. I saw a car on speurders.nl and is send the man an email that i'm interst. The man called thomas edison send me this

1e email:
Hello,
The car is in great working condition, has no scratches or dents, never been involved in any kind of accidents. The car interior is impeccable (i do not smoke). The engine works perfectly. I can ensure you that the car is full operational. The car has all the revisions made at an authorized service. You can also see in the photos i posted that the car is in perfect condition. I am the first owner of this car which was bought new .
I bought this car from Netherlands at the same time when i bought a holiday house there. Due to some financial problems i am having i had to sell the holiday house a few weeks ago. I did not manage to sell the car too when i sold the house because i did not have a lot of time at my disposal so i decided to take the car with me in England and try to sell it here in England. At this time the car is located in Bristol, United Kingdom same place where me and my family live.
I have tried to sell it in England, but it is very difficult to sell it in England due to the fact that it has the steering wheel on the left side ( in England the cars have the steering wheel on the right side ). I also tried to sell it to a local dealer but the price that they are offering to me is too low. I have decided to sell the car to an Netherlands person because the car is still registered in Netherlands and has Netherlands papers ( plate number and also Netherlands certificate ).
As i am very busy with my new work contract ( i am a construction engineer ) i can not come to Netherlands to sell the car there. I prefer to sell the car at a lower price then the market price and close the deal using an escrow company ( a company that ensures safety for buyer and seller at the same time ). The name of the escrow company is EDC Express Delivery Company. The car is currently located in their custody. I left it here because i am very busy with my job and I really do not have the necessary time to sell the car. If we understand to close the deal this company will take care of all the shipping arrangements, including to make the transfer of propriety onto your name. It will take 5 business days to have the car delivered to The Netherlands and the car will come with 10 days return policy ( In case the car won't meet your conditions you have the right to return it back without paying any taxes and your money will be refunded to you ). The escrow company services are very good and it is much easier for me to use this company because they will take car of all the paper work and I do not need to come to The Netherlands to close the deal in person.
If you are interested in buying the car, the total price including the transport taxes to The Netherlands country and also the transfer of propriety onto your name is 3500 EURO.
That's all i can say for the moment, but if you are interested in having more information about the transaction or the car i would be glad to reply.
I also accept local pick up for the car and i would be more then happy to assist for a meeting.
Here you have my contact information:
96 Whiteladies Road
Bristol Bristol
BS8 2QX
United Kingdom
+44 (703) 187-3763
Thank you!

I send him an email that i want the car.

2e email:

Hello,
As mentioned in my previous message, the car is located in Bristol, United Kingdom and i intend to ship it from here through an authorized shipping company ( an escrow company will work for both of us). I want to handle the delivery and payment of the car through an escrow company. Using this type of company will give you the chance to inspect the car before I receive the payment for it. I will explain to you step by step how this will work:
A. First of all and most important, if you agree to close the deal, you will have to send me your shipping information ( your full name and address/ contact phone number and if available also a fax number ).
1. After I receive your shipping information, I will contact the escrow company and make the shipping reservation onto your name and with your shipping address as the intended receiver. Then i will go to their office to make the transfer of the propriety onto your name. The transfer of the propriety will be done to the Netherlands Consulate from London (the location of the shipping company) by a legal attorney that works for the Escrow company and i will support the taxes for making the transfer of propriety onto your name.
B. You will receive a notification from the escrow service as a confirmation that the car is in their custody, that the car has been inspected and that I have signed for the transfer of the ownership documents to your name.
1. After that, you will have to send the payment to the escrow service .
2. The escrow service will verify the Transfer, and if everything is in order, they will deliver the car to your door step. ( they require only a deposit amount of 50% that means 1.750 euros , not the entire amount that we are dealing for ). The rest of amount you will have to pay upon car arrival to your address.The payment is sent to the escrow company and not to me directly. The payment will be forwarded to me only after you receive the car and confirm that you accept it.
3. After you will receive the car and you will be completely satisfied with it, you will instruct the escrow service with your decision.
C. If by any reason, you will not be satisfied with the product, you will return the car to the escrow service with no expense. ( i will support all the returning taxes )
The car will come with 10 days Return Policy ( period to inspect the car condition and if by any reason you won't be satisfied, you will be fully refunded within 24 hours).
The name of the Escrow company is EDC Express. Their website is: :Got anything to ship? Use Our Third Party Agency: . Please take a look at the services they are offering and tell me what's your opinion. If you agree to close the deal then send me the information i requested from you above and in maximum 24 hours all arrangements will be done.
Thank you!

+44 (703) 187-3763
Thomas Edison

3e email:

Hello,
Thank you for your cooperation and for providing the requested information. I have just made the reservation for the delivery of the car to the name and address you gave me. The delivery company is waiting for me to make the transfer of the propriety so they can start the transaction and prepare the necessary documents. They told me that the arrangements will not take longer than 24 hours. That means that in maximum 24 hours i will contact you with ( the tracking number ). Once the arrangements are finished, the shipping company will contact you with more details about the transaction to your email. That's all for the moment. I will contact you with more details after the delivery arrangements are complete.
Best Regards!

4e email:

Hello,
I have finished the shipping arrangements. The tracking number for your shipment is ***** You can verify the shipping information on the web address of the shipping company ( :Got anything to ship? Use Our Third Party Agency: ). The shipping company said that in the next hours they will also contact you with the confirmation of the shipment and also future details regarding the transaction.
Please let me know if everything is ok and if you have received the instructions from the shipping company. I have used their Third Party Agency. This is the best service that they are offering and is 100% secure.
Thank you!

Than the compagny send me also an email that i need to make transaction over with WESTERN UNION 1.750 euro.

After that

They send me a second email that i need to send the second transaction off 1.750 euro.

I'm really stuppid that i send the company the money together 3500 euro.

Can somebody give me information to get my money back or to find this man. Because i live in Holland.
Rabia, sorry dat ik het zo doe, maar het is nogal persoonlijk. Kan je me mailen op deze e-mail:
starsprankel@hotmail.com

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Old 06-29-2008, 09:43 PM
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Default EDC!! I'd like to thankyou rabia for putting this information on this post.

I nearly bought a car from this man. Martin he called himself. I did not part with any money thanks to seeing your posts with the near exact emails as i received from "Martin". So thankyou. I was foolish enough to give him my phone number but on the plus side he text me back so i have his phone number for you/police. +393284011602. I really hope this can be of use to you and am sorry for your loss. Once again, thanks for saving me from financial hardship. Any more info you think i may be able to help with don't hesitate to ask.

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Old 06-29-2008, 10:31 PM
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so i have his phone number for you/police. +393284011602. I really hope this can be of use to you and am sorry for your loss.
its a italian mobile-phone-number without registration, i mean.....difficult to catch this gangster

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