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Investment fraud: XR-Group and BOFX Investment fraud: XR-Group and BOFX

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\r\n\r\n\r\nAs already discussed on the thread "Bluefire Capital Futures and Options investment scam", the same fraud procedure is praticed by the "dummy investment companies" XR-Group and BOFX.
\r\nI have been contacted by phone and had been introduced to their internet accounting and trading system on the BOFX web page. After having invested the first amount they requested to remit more to improve and to speed up the profits with gold options on GC Q0. GC Q0 really exists and I was able to follow the chart development on the independent futuresource webpage. The buy and sell options had been listed in due time on the BOFX account and I received a confirmation email from BOFX as soon as I released a trade.
\r\nAfter requesting the withdrawal of the "wins" from the BOFX account, there was no access anymore to the BOFX internet account. Emails to BOFX- and XR-Group contact persons returned undeliverable and no one picked up the phone anymore.
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\r\nI hope this message can prevent some people to fall into the same trap. The details of the dummy investment companies are as follows:
\r\nthe broker company:
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\r\nThe account to follow the "option trades" :
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\r\nIt seems that I was dealing with a world wide operating criminal organization (same system as described on the Bluefire Capital thread).
\r\nThe remaining question is just: Which institution is following and investigating such serious fraud delicts?
\r\nIs there somebody, who made similar experiences. What did you do after having recognized that you had been the victim of a fraud?\r\n\r\n
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\r\nEven until now XR group exists, but it\'s an IT related company.
\r\nNow those criminals have abused this company\'s name of course.
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\r\nI had checked out everything. Even if there were any claims about this. Nothing to find, only but nice press releases like fundraisings to Haiti, and so on.
\r\nI contacted some of them to ask where they had found their info and what was there source.
\r\nI am waiting for feedback.
\r\nThe only thing i did not do, was check out there phone numbers.
\r\nNames like Harold Stones, Frank Evans, Richard Berns, Steve BEnson are familiar to you?
\r\nAnd I could find anything on the internet from Trading Link limited as well. They said there was no info on the net, as it is just a clearing member. Whatever!
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\r\nI just want to find other vics like me to unite in this.
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\r\nI went to the local police and they forwarded to the federal police.
\r\nI also wrote to the Hong Kong police.
\r\nAnd I contacted the Hong Kong Bank.
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\r\nIf the account still would exist, if they could block it.
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\r\nThose people have to be found, as they are destroying many lives!
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\r\nIf you feel free to contact me, pls do so at codra.bvba add telenet.be
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\r\n\r\ni lost 22000 dollar on xr-group investments
\r\n1st i had a call from M Paul Goodman tel n� 00852/30199410 fax n) 085230155842
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\r\nthen mr Stones took over tel n) 00852/30509030 fax) 00852/30155842
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\r\nWhat can we do to get our money back
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\r\nI lost 55.000, the same names and the same story....
\r\nNow I have contact with griffin-miller, they are specialized in this fraud
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\r\n\r\nI\'m also a victim. First contacted by Mr. Mario Rosen, then the contact was taken over by Mr. Harold Stones. Both from xr-group company. I checken Mr. Stones tel number : 0085230509030. I was connected correctly to him through a telephone standard with message XR-group.
\r\nLost also some 200.000 $.
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\r\nI also contacted the federal police. I am afraid there is not much they can or will do. I am now looking to contact the Honkong Bank.
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\r\nFeel free to contact me by mail. Perhaps someting can be done in group.
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\r\nI was contacted by Thomas Novak and then also directed to Harold Stones both from xr-group. The BOFX account and everything, all the same!
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\r\nI am a victim as well - lost 82K -
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\r\nWho on earth is charge of prosecuting such things?
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\r\nuntil know we didn\'t reach much and i have the impression nothing is moving forward.
\r\nI am afraid our cheaters ran away with the money and nothing can be done anymore.
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\r\nFor those interested, I still have some important information which I don\'t want to make public over here.
\r\nPlease contact me at codra.bvba add telenet.be or 003236675551
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\r\nA lot of us already are working together on this crime. Investigation has advanced in a pretty good direction. If there are more victims who would like to join force with us, please contact me at codra.bvba add telenet.be
\r\nThose from Belgium that didn\'t put themselves yet \'burgelijke partij\', we advise still to do so.
\r\nAlso pls contact us, as also there the belgian police and justice are working on this. ONLY TOGETHER we can make this work!!
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\r\nI have contacted the police however there is very little that can be done unless a combined group establishes a common case for investigation.
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Default Investment fraud: XR-Group and BOFX
As already discussed on the thread "Bluefire Capital Futures and Options investment scam", the same fraud procedure is praticed by the "dummy investment companies" XR-Group and BOFX.
I have been contacted by phone and had been introduced to their internet accounting and trading system on the BOFX web page. After having invested the first amount they requested to remit more to improve and to speed up the profits with gold options on GC Q0. GC Q0 really exists and I was able to follow the chart development on the independent futuresource webpage. The buy and sell options had been listed in due time on the BOFX account and I received a confirmation email from BOFX as soon as I released a trade.
After requesting the withdrawal of the "wins" from the BOFX account, there was no access anymore to the BOFX internet account. Emails to BOFX- and XR-Group contact persons returned undeliverable and no one picked up the phone anymore.

I hope this message can prevent some people to fall into the same trap. The details of the dummy investment companies are as follows:
the broker company:
XR-Group
Lippo Centre, Tower 2
89 Queensway, Admiralty
Hong Kong
Tel.: +852 3050 9030

The account to follow the "option trades" :
Beijing Options and Futures exchange (BOFX)
Servoffice Business Center
15 Guanghua Road,
Beijing, SH, China

It seems that I was dealing with a world wide operating criminal organization (same system as described on the Bluefire Capital thread).
The remaining question is just: Which institution is following and investigating such serious fraud delicts?
Is there somebody, who made similar experiences. What did you do after having recognized that you had been the victim of a fraud?

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