|
|||||||
 |
|
|
Submit Tools | LinkBack | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Display Modes |
|
01-25-2008, 11:59 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Elcodel Europen Delivery Company
|
|
01-27-2008, 08:00 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Italian Car Scam
We've just gone through the same scenario today - guy had a car for sale on Pistonheads.com advertised in Portsmouth but had moved back to Italy due to work and had to sell car - same story. Our guy called himself Guiliano Favalli from Turin. The shipping company was also Edcargo. We will not of course now be sending the money. They must be stopped.
|
|
01-29-2008, 12:02 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Lintoni
I answered an add for a boat in Australia which seemed quite cheap. It turned out to be from Rome, Italy. The seller was transfered from Australia to Italy for work and took the boat with himm. Now he wants to sell it back a buyer in Australia and says he will pay for all the shipping. His name is Floyd Wilkerson and the shipping company is EdCargo. They say the boat will remain in EuropeCargo Ltd custody until buyer provides the payment informations to EuropeCargo Ltd. The payment will be made through a wire transfer service. Once the funds are verified the boat will be sent to the buyer.
Elcodel tracks the shipping merchandise and verifies it was delivered. After 5 days inspection then money is transferred to seller. It looks like other people have had similar experiences with cars. Is this a scam?
|
|
01-29-2008, 03:11 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Hi lintoni,
So what you are saying is basically that the seller will give the boat to a third party of HIS choice.Then you will pay the third party which was previously unknown to you? There are two scenarios. 1st...there is no third party.there is only you and a scammer 2nd ...it is cheaper to buy a boat in rome and ship it to Australia than to buy in Australia I think you can see which is the more obvious scenario If you have a website for EuropeCargo Ltd it would be good to post it for search engines
|
|
01-29-2008, 08:31 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
i'm from australia & the further i investigate the more people that have been done by this... i have been looking into this for 3 days and the amount of people that are being scammed amazes me. i wouldn't do.... seriously, these people are doing everything from cars to computers. the car i was buying was actually for sale on ebay, placed there by the correct owner, i have been in contact with him & warned him what is going on. it may be an idea to look on ebay & you will probarbly find the boat for the 'real' price, which is more than likely double what the scammer is asking for it. remember if it's too good to be true, it usually is!
|
|
01-29-2008, 08:35 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
01-29-2008, 09:17 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Hey cazzatwin1,
If you have any doubt,and are in contact with someone giving you the same story then you can post the email of the escrow service and any other information you might have... Although I am sure that it is also a scam in your case we might be able to give you a bit more proof.
|
|
01-29-2008, 10:52 PM
|
|||
|
|||
EdcCargo Ltd
Hi. I'm new to this forum but thought I should inform you that, I also had seen a car advertised at a very reasonable price on Pistonheads. Thought it was too good to be true but went ahead emailing the vendor. This is the email address he is using: [email protected] stating that I was interested in the car and would it be possible for him to email more details.
These are the contents of the emails received: First of all I have to tell you that the vehicle is in good condition, has no technical damage at all, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects, no smoking. It's fun and robust to drive. Technical inspection and emissions testing is passed and stamped as well. It has title of ownership, cleared of any obligations or fees and comes with all the documents you need to register it. The reason I am selling the car is because I really have to not because I don't like it anymore. I have worked in UK for the last 2 years and I've purchased the car there. My company wanted me back home, so currently I'm in Rome, Italy. I've bring the car home with me. I decided that is better to sell it because I don `t use it anymore (the wheel is on right side and is very difficult for me to drive it in Italy) and it `s a pity to keep such a car and not to use it. I realize that is a cheap price for such a car but my special situation makes me do things that I wouldn't do in normal circumstances. The price I am looking for my car is £3,800 including the shipping costs,insurance and handling (delivery to EUROPE). You will not have to pay additional taxes for this. The car has MOT, Road tax until next year. Also has full service history and it is hpi cleared. Please feel free to email me with any questions you may have. Hi, I would like to use a shipping company for this deal, the process is very easy and I have just bought a 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee and this is why I know how it works. This company will handle the delivery of the car and also they will handle all the registration papers. If we will use it you will have 5 days to inspect the car before you decide to buy it. I will pay delivery! The delivery time will be around 7 days and the car will be delivered at your home address. In this time you will receive the tracking number of the transaction so you can use it to check the status on the company website. Let me explain you the whole process: First I will need your details, full name and address. As soon as I get the info from you I will take the car and go to the shipping company to transfer it in their custody. I will pay all the shipping charges. After the car is in their custody they will send you a confirmation and also payment instructions. They work as an escrow service and will hold the payment during the 5 days period for inspection. After the payment is confirmed to them, they will get the car to your home address and will also give you the documents of registration and the car will be left in your custody, in this period you can inspect the car, take it to a service for inspection and drive test it. After the 5 days period is over the shipping company will come to you and if you decided to keep the car you will transfer the documents on your name and after the car is registered on your name they will release the payment to me. If you decide not to buy the car they will get the car back and will send you a full refund of the payment. Please e-mail me with your decision and also your full name and address!! My phone no. is: 0039 3284-011-602, I am available in the morning before 10 AM, in the afternoon I am at work so will get back to you by email. Thank you Martin I just came back from the shipping company, it took me a while to arrange everything, I have paid for shipping and everything, it cost me about 500 Eur, anyway it is all done, they will contact you with payment instructions and they also gave me a tracking number to track the car on their web site here it is:UD*********R72 You can check it on .:::We offer good protection, both for the seller and the buyer Let me know when they have contacted you and also the status of the car and when will get to you. Thank you and have a nice day. Martin Welcome to EdcCargo Ltd, Our Company is the European market leader in global express and international mail services. EdcCargo reduces risks associated with Internet transactions by acting as a licensed, trusted, neutral third party for on-line transactions. The seller leaves the merchandise into EdcCargo custody. The merchandise will remain in EdcCargo custody until the buyer provides the payment information to EdcCargo. The payment will be made through a Wire Transfer Service. Once the funds are verified by EdcCargo, the merchandise will be send to the buyer. Address Information: Shipper/seller: Martin Veluci Via Matteo Boiardo 23 Rome, 00185 Italy Ship to/buyer: D************* ************** *********, ******, ************* United Kingdom Shipment Information: Service: Door Arrival Delivery Time: 7 days Shipment ID: UD*********R72 AUDI A4 TDI 130 QUATTRO SPORT You can track your merchandise directly by accessing this link: .:::We offer good protection, both for the seller and the buyer Package Details: AUDI A4 TDI 130 QUATTRO SPORT Shipping Fees: *500.00 Package Information: Package 1 of 1 Package Type: EdcCargo EXPRESS DELIVERY Billing Information for the Shipment Payment Method: American Express XXXX-2007 Total: All currencies in EURO **500.00 If you have any questions contact us to our email address: [email protected] and we will appreciate the opportunity to help you resolve any issue. EdcCargo Ltd. Through this e-mail we have the pleasure to inform you that the merchandise has been left in our custody. The shipping fee was paid by the Seller. The Payment Information must be sent to us for verification. The Payment Information that you need to send to us are: Money Transfer Control Number, Sender's Name and Sender's Address, Receiver's Name and Receiver's Address. The Seller is unable to receive any information regarding the payment data. This action is restricted by a mutual agreement between the Seller and EdcCargo. *Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment to EdcCargo Ltd., Payment Department, for verification. Full amount to be paid: £3,800. First: you should locate and find the closest Western Union office to your home address. Second: You must go there and make the payment in person and with cash, using the personal information we provided you, naming full name and address of our agent from Payment Department: Name: Mario Bionde Address: Via San Tommaso 12 City/State: Rome Postal Code: 00192 Country: Italy Third: You will receive a payment confirmation from Western Union. You have to e-mail us the following details from the payment receipt: - MTCN - 10 digits number from the payment receipt - Sender Name and Address - Receiver Name - Amount sent Fourth: Send us a e-mail with the payment details should be as specific as possible, to allow us to verify that the payment has been made. Please send us the payment information in this email address: [email protected] To ask for a refund, simply reply to this notification and enter in the subject line: Refund request for transaction number: UD*********R72 Sincerely, Trade Financial Department Operator: Tracy[/size] Problem with this so call scam, I was taken in up to the point of sending the monies. However they have my home contact address, telephone number and email address. SHOULD I BE WORRIED? Please advise. I hope this post helps to rid us of these bas*ard scammer! Last edited by dazrick68; 01-30-2008 at 05:27 AM.
|
|
01-29-2008, 11:37 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Hi DR.
You should really edit your post to hide the shipment ID number otherwise everyone can see your address. I reported the website so hopefully it will be shut down.I know this is no help to you but it might save someone else from being scammed by the site. If you have paid by western union in the past 24 hours,then it is worth seeing if it has been picked up.You can do this by tracking at westernunions website. These scammers are cowards.They hide behind the internet to steal.There is no possibility that they will call to your house when they can just try the same scam on someone else. If you have not given them any ID or bank information then I would say that you are pretty safe.There is not a lot someone can do with a name address and email address.Most of that information is publicly available
|
Linear Mode
 |
|
 |
recently twittered on 419 Legal |
||
| About US | Contact Us | Sitemap Copyright © 2011 419 Legal All rights reserved. |
||
All times are GMT. The time now is 10:58 AM.
