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![]() MDH says they are investing the money into several operations including point of sale (POS) terminals which offer ATM functions, online sales and advertising. However MDH has provided no info on how many units they have installed or how much money they are making from them. In August they were presented with a cease and desist order from the Attorney General of Maryland to stop soliciting new investors. Seems they forgot the little step of registering with the state as an investment firm. They are also under investigation for criminal charges related to the their operation being a Ponzi scheme. There are a large number of names for the various branches of the company. This helps to make them look larger than they are and as if they had a number of viable investments. In reality they have simply conned a number of others into joining them by starting various new variations on the Ponzi or Pyramid scheme, or in many cases I believe that the new members are very much aware of the true nature of this scheme. Some of the names are Metropolitian Grapevine, POS Dream Homes, Global Pacific Investment, YTB, HelloWorld, 5Linx, Dream Rides, Communities in Partnership, DeVine Foundation, CIP, and Billboards 4 ATMs. There was a thread started at the scam dot com forum, but the site keeps being taken down by denial of service attacks. Another thread was started at City-data dot com, but the moderators decided that was not a topic relevant to their forums. So I am starting this one here to see if we can get a thread going that will stay up. Hope to see Rey19, sagegriot, scamme and all the other posters here! Last edited by ralphmalph; 10-03-2007 at 03:04 PM. |
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Put me down as not believing the MDH organization is responsible* for the problems with the scam.com site, but its interesting to see the impact of that board going down. It will be tough to regain the cohesion we had. Thanks for getting us a foothold here, Ralph
*Quote from scam.com poster : "........the whole company couldn't organize a free lunch........" |
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I would like to see everyone show up here. I just don't expect scam.com to be able to deal with what ever is happening over there.
I have to say I don't understand what re-foundingmother is about. Her posts are very long and not very clear at all. She also keeps dropping "hints" of how the problem is bigger without saying just what the heck she is talking about. Have you figured out what she is saying? |
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There was another article in the Freelance Star on Monday. Here is the link. Note that someone is looking for you all in the postings at the end...
Fredericksburg.com - Dream Homes loses bid to restart business Also a friend of mine was at the FLS on Monday for five minutes and when she came out there was a leaflet on her car windshield warning everyone that MDH is crooks. That's all the new stuff I know. Just agree with scamme that this is getting old. Hope we can stay here for at least the week ![]() Last edited by VaAppraiser; 10-05-2007 at 02:34 AM. |
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Welcome everyone. I'm glad that people are starting to find this thread. It shows up at the top of the second page on Google. If we say the magic words enough it may make it to the first page. Metro Dream Homes, Metropolitian Grapevine, POS Dream Homes, Global Pacific Investment, YTB, HelloWorld, 5Linx, Dream Rides, Communities in Partnership, DeVine Foundation, CIP, and Billboards 4 ATMs
Just to give the search engines something more to digest... did I miss any? Meanwhile, I can't believe that a September check is going to clear. If it doesn't bounce, I think it will be a miracle. Keep us informed. |
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Maybe I'm a bit too picky, but I wish they didn't call them a "mortgage company". Otherwise, a fairly good account from the local weekly newspaper:
Laurel Leader Last edited by Sage Griot; 10-05-2007 at 05:11 AM. |
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What I am saying is that there are all areas of business being compromised and other industries than banking and mortgage and unregistered promissory notes. What I am saying is that people's lives and livelihoods are being destroyed systematically by more insidious real intent than just negligence and ignorance. What I am saying is that to get it stopped and justice served quickly while government agencies and law enforcement are moving at a snails pace and to display 19 months of information and help, requires some of my wordy posts. And I'm depressed a little. Not a robot. This particular scam is huge because it crosses more than one area of business and over 1500 or more families in our area (DC,MD,VA,) plus FL,CA,NV,NY and NC that I know about. I'm sure there's more. What I am saying is that we have to do something (a little louder than blogging) because these 'internal terrorists" of American business and American capitalist dreamers are winning today. And the "little" that I've been saying has been because I thought it was more appropriate to talk to government agencies first, but am finding out that more is actually being done here on the vigilante side. The attorneys that I finally got to call me back actually found me here. So thanks for reading and hoping with me that stuff is being done and I have heard from some that what people can get through in my posts is actually helpful and preventative. Most of the investors that I have talked to, insist that Andy will work it out and that they are just fine. I don't know how to help these people other than write. Some have sent Private messages and I hope that people will continue. I wish I was a better editor of my own work, but I'm just not today. This is a huge problem as far as I can tell and I have a huge amount to say. ![]() So To all reading this new posting board. I've been to private attorneys today. They let me know that none of the people that they've spoken to are pursuing charges against these obvious criminals. They also let me know that my "contract" for services has a technicality omission in it so they feel that it would not stand on its own for services rendered and not paid for. (meanwhile the sad truth is that MDH and all of the ancillary companies have not signed any enforceable contracts at all but they all collect paychecks and gather investors money and continue to drive convertible corvettes to the Redskins games, but all of a sudden my contract doesn't warrant payment) I never planned to make the attorney's job easy. I have a valid case and valid work history and extremely valid information and proof of all things that I have reported PLUS all the additional "stuff" that no professional has made the time to here yet. I have no problem earning money for valid services, just no one to sell it to at the moment. The problem is that all the people who could help put these people away already collect paychecks for their regular work and this one is messy, so they don't want it. I have not been able to ascertain whether there is a victims fund yet and my daughter and I are homeless now; afraid to go to where our living furnishings and other personal items are, and my checking account is overdrawn and only $60 bucks in my wallet for the weekend. This has been going on for tooo long. The attorneys I talked to today, like the law enforcement agents, have suggested to continue on my own trying to collect the money for this debt that I earned and that has not been paid. I don't really want to spend anymore time trying to collect money from Andy Williams. Because even if the money is paid even at the treble amount that I am entitled to under the laws of theft and fraud and tortuous interference and the other securities and mortgage and racketeering and money laundering and lying and perjury and other collateral crimes that I can keep giving interviews about ...NO ONE CAN PAY BACK TIME AND OR TRUST OR CONFIDENCE. NO ONE CAN PAY BACK MY REPUTATION, MY CREDIT AND CREDIBILITY, OR MY ABILITY TO GET OTHER LEGITIMATE WORK, WHICH IS COMPLETELY COMPROMISED. MY FAMILY IS SO SICK OF THIS AND THEY'RE NOT LOCAL ANYWAY. MY INABILITY GET THE COURTS AND ATTORNEYS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT'S "NOT OUR JOB" TO PROTECT ME, THAT I CAN'T EVEN GET A COUPLE BUCKS TO COVER FOOD. So, I'm not feeling sorry for myself by writing this, I'm looking for work. I have no problem doing better than satisfactory work and I need an advance for the work that was created to create revenue. I can't do the plan without time (30 days), space and a small loan or advance to get it up and running. I'm talking legitimate real work and sales to cover the start-up cost and pay one month's rent somewhere where I can put my kid in school which she deserves to start. (We can't even go to public school without an address other than a cheap hotel.) Is there any angel investor out there that wants to legitimately (I can show the plan and the revenue calculation and prove the work) make some ROI and help rebuild a legitimate consulting company? Is there any investor out there that has been burned by this or who is waiting it out but wants to have information that you should have had about your business with MDH that they have kept from you? Is there any investor out there who can see the benefit of continuing to believe that "Andy" will make everything all right because you like him still and STILL want a plan B?? Everything that you investors have bought into with these programs of mortgage payments and ATM's and Digital Ads can all be done and is being done legally and without complications if you know where to look. Everything that I have suggested for revenue that is not included in these posts is being done by others and being done well and smart and with limited input and work from you. I'm not asking anyone to sign up for work with me. I am not asking for fiduciary control of your money in order to make your money work for you. I would like to ask for a micro start up amount of capital to continue to fight the good fight and to do other real work too. Sure the Attorney Generals want to talk to me but they are on salary and get paid for listening to my evidence whether I give it or not. I have a serious problem with the vigilante suggestions that people make (keep doing what you are doing and try to get the civil/financial matters settled)and I am compelled to be a good example for my daughter because our constitutional rights have been abused but IT COSTS MONEY that I no longer have. I've been indentured to this insidious criminal organization and I want it to stop. Everyone who has commented here agrees that these people need to "get what's coming." There has been serious wrong doings and crimes committed and I will fight against these injustices until there's no breath left in my body, BUT I PREFER TO LIVE AND TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY AT THE SAME TIME WITH REAL WORK. So, if there's a book deal, that I can partner with someone, or a person who wants to invest in a small business (amount $5k to $25k) that will be paid with interest plus 1% per thousand advanced and a money back guarantee that product will launch 30-60 days, then send me a message. I'm not begging and I'm not desperate (well, yeah I am desperate) but I can't continue to read here and everywhere about these problems and KNOWING I HAVE A SOLUTION AND REAL BUSINESS SOLUTION, not ask for an advance to protect the common interest and the integrity of justice being served. I'm trying to move on while cleaning up. Please consider contacting me. |
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"Most of the investors that I have talked to, insist that Andy will work it out and that they are just fine" -Until this changes, I would not expect the AG to respond aggresively. In fact, until this changes, almost nothing else matters. It could be too late anyway, but I bet there are still at least a few assets available, like convertible Corvettes. Quote: "bigger crimes than people knowingly agreeing to have their mortgages paid" -Ok, but that's not a crime unless there is proof of deception (appraisals) or non-disclosures on the HUD-1, mortgage app, etc. I'm STILL the guy saying "its NOT about the mortgages" and I have no doubt that numerous problems could be uncovered IF the AG were to take this problem seriously, but everything I see says aggressive prosecution of this whole program is not a high priority at all.........see the 1st quote above. Many of us not in the program are more outraged than any of the "investors" from what Ive seen, and that includes you Re-founding Mother as being a victimized stakeholder. So, I think the gov't just wants the activity to cease and the prosecution is an afterthought. Still nothing from the gov't about charges against any of the enablers (realtors, appraisers, BIG and small mortgage companies). I know I'm repeating myself, but its a new forum, so forgive me. Last edited by Sage Griot; 10-06-2007 at 04:42 PM. |